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The Book of Mormon, A story about ME

  • Mar. 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 PM

For he said that the history of his people should be engraven upon his other plates, Jacob 1:3

 

And now, as I have spoken concerning these plates, behold they are not the plates upon which I make a full account of the history of my people 1 Ne. 9: 2

 

And if my people desire to know the more particular part of the history of my people they must search mine other plates. 2 Ne. 5: 33

 

 

     Seems we are not to read the BOM as a history.  Therein largely is the problem.  We read it as a history and look way past the mark.  It is written as a commandment, prophecy and revelation (title page).  Who is this revealing prophecy, given as a commandment, too?  And what is that commandment?

            We know that we are in condemnation for not living this commandment.  “And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written (DC 84)”.   How about that?  The Book of Mormon is a commandment, as both of these scriptures state.  It’s a commandment to the Lamanite, Jew and Gentile.  These are the three main players in Israel’s redemption, or restoration.  The commandment therefore deals with this event, the restoration of Israel and establishment of Zion.  Which of course, we have entirely forgotten as a people.  The world lieth in sin for, “it is not given that one man should possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in sin”. 

 

            We read the BOM as a HISTORY of Nephi, when in reality it’s a a revealing prophecy of us Gentiles who forsake the covenant, except for the remnant. 

 

            The stories are ALL types of our lives, of our events, of our problems.  They are commands to us in story form of how to live and how not to live.  All that was not relevant to us, was left out of the book.  Isaiah is given to us as the type by Nephi.  His entire book is a relation of historical things in order to define prophetic events, just as the BOM is given.

a Factory...

  • Mar. 14th, 2009 at 10:05 PM

This is a comment I made on LDS Anarchy website that I thought was worth keeping here...

I have come to believe though, that a huge part of the change and path for us is meant to persecution from those who profess to know the name of Christ. That sanctification has a price to pay, and that is suffering for things that the ‘group’ don’t agree with. Not that we should seek persecution, but we shouldn’t shy away either. Speak for truth in humility and let the system take its course.

I’m beginning to think the Lord has used the greedy and selfish nature of men, power hungry, etc…to produce a factory.  Hes the all knowing and loving owner who created the workplace to enable the workers to have directed profitable employ. Contrary to this, the Managers of the factory think they are doing things most efficiently for gain, though at the expense of the workers. The owner knows better though and has provided instructions written in the manual for the workers to do their jobs as individuals-and receive the optimum monetary benefit possible for themselves. Very few of those workers ever see the instructions, as most are doing as the managers tell them to do. Most don’t even read the workers manual. The managers themselves largely don’t know the instructions are there and what they do they explain or change.

As a result, those who do read and understand the message the owner was trying to tell them, stick out like a sore thumb. The other workers are annoyed as the differing folks seem to gum up the works, step on toes, they are bad for company image. They do things differently. They confound management since they seem to do their jobs better, understand the rules more completely but not do as they are told. Eventually some are “fired” from their jobs. But this too is OK, as the owner has provided a clause that when a worker is fired in this manner, doing his job most efficiently, according to the book, he is compensated monetarily out of the owners pocket FAR more than they would have received slaving away in the factory for their lives. They are then set at the personal employ of the owner, with a direct line cell phone, to do the work in places outside of the walls of the factory.

The “church” today is built to exalt the few who stick-out , though the general populace doesn’t see it that way, through study, prayer and suffering, as the saints in Helaman 3 found out. 

And in the *fifty and first year of the reign of the judges there was peace also, save it were the pride which began to enter into the church—not into the church of God, but into the hearts of the people who aprofessed to belong to the church of God— "And they were lifted up in apride, even to the persecution of many of their brethren. Now this was a great evil, which did cause the more humble part of the people to suffer great persecutions, and to wade through much affliction.  Nevertheless they did afast and bpray oft, and did wax stronger and stronger in their chumility, and firmer and firmer in the faith of Christ, unto the filling their souls with joy and consolation, yea, even to the dpurifying and the esanctification of their hearts, which sanctification cometh because of their fyielding their hearts unto God." 

 



Water in the rock

  • Mar. 14th, 2009 at 1:38 PM

If you haven't read the blog here you might not understand my following thoughts.  Than again, you might be smarter than me and understand them entirely.

There have been many recent comments in conferences about us being the Rock cut out of the mountain without hands.  While this is true, we haven't fit the part of a stone that fills the world.  That isn't supposed to happen, according to the Dream, until AFTER Babylon is destroyed by the servant.   As a consequence, we aren't quite the rock we believe ourselves to be.

Hidden in that rock there is a bit of water, deep into its many crevices.  Soon that water will freeze, breaking the rock into pieces, leaving only the best, hardest, most fit portion.  This portion of the Rock will perform the work above, with the God t as Guide, to take the Gospel to Israel.  The water in the Rock is the Revelation the servant will give us, the Leaven in the meal of the scriptures, to divide asunder with the words of Christ.  May that revelatory frozen day come!

The sign of the Dove

  • Feb. 17th, 2009 at 1:11 PM

 

I recently have been hit by another topic discussed by Joseph, and in particular the way he discussed it.  Quoting the topic in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism:

All four Gospel writers indicate that at the baptism of Jesus, John the Baptist saw the Spirit descend upon Jesus like a dove (Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; John 1:32). The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, John 1:31-33, reads: "And John bare record, saying: When he was baptized of me, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him; for he who sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me: Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God" (see also JST Matt. 3:45-46).

The Holy Ghost is a spirit person in the form of man (D&C 130:22) and does not transform himself into a dove or any other form. The Prophet Joseph Smith explained: "The sign of the dove was instituted before the creation of the world, a witness for the Holy Ghost, and the devil cannot come in the sign of a dove. The Holy Ghost is a personage [a man], and is in the form of a personage [a man]. It does not confine itself to the form of the dove, but in sign [symbol or representation] of the dove. The Holy Ghost cannot be transformed into a dove; but the sign of a dove was given to John to signify the truth of the deed, as the dove is an emblem or token of truth and innocence" (TPJS, p. 276). The dove was a supernatural sign given to John to witness the identity of the messiah. Some non-LDS scholars have entertained differing opinions as to whether or not a real dove was present. Joseph Smith's explanation leads toward a conclusion that the dove was not literally present (see Jesus Christ: Baptism).

Other references to the sign of the dove are 1 Nephi 11:27; 2 Nephi 31:8 and Doctrine and Covenants 93:15. The Book of Abraham states that to Abraham also was revealed "the sign of the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove" (Facsimile 2, Fig. 7).

As usual, upon pondering this, I can’t say I agree entirely with the encyclopedia, though I appreciate them doing some of the legwork.  Especially the line, “Joseph Smith's explanation leads toward a conclusion that the dove was not literally present” 

 

            A literary analysis, in my opinion, digs up the opposite ideal.  In the JST of Matthew quote it states, “and it abode upon him”   And in the verse in John, the same wordage is used.  In the other instances of the word “abode” in the New Tesatment, “in” is used to signify when someone or something dwells INSIDE of that thing or person.  This is the only incidence of the dove dwelling on someone. 

            A correlation for this is found in the Fac. 2 #7 where in Abraham drew an actual dove.  And Joseph tells us, “the sign of the Holy Ghost unto Abraham, in the form of a dove.”

            Reading the explanations from Joseph in the above quote from the Encyclopedia, “It does not confine itself to the form of the dove, but in sign [symbol or representation] of the dove. The Holy Ghost cannot be transformed into a dove; but the sign of a dove was given to John to signify the truth of the deed, as the dove is an emblem or token of truth and innocence  My reading of this shows that there are two entities.  A Holy Ghost coming upon and dwelling IN the baptized and baptizer and a dove sent as a SIGN to all that the Holy Spirit of Promise recognized the deed.  Would this be made mention, the dove, had a Dove not been seen? 

            Reading other versions of ‘signs’ sent to men by God to tell them something, we see a similar pattern.  In Jer 6:1 the Lord states, “and set up a sign of fire in Beth-haccerem: for evil appeareth out of the anorth, and great destruction.”  This sign was set up to warn the people of evil.  In  1 Kgs. 13: 3, 5  we read, “And he gave a sign the same day, saying, This is the sign which the Lord hath spoken; Behold, the altar shall be arent, and the ashes that are upon it shall be poured out...The altar also was rent, and the ashes poured out from the altar, according to the sign which the man of God had given by the word of the Lord.”  Here again, the Lord gave a sign, and it was physical proof that an event had happened.  The Lord sent multiple signs to moses, Israel and Egypt to warn of destruction impending.  They were tangible to flesh, visible to those without spiritual sight.  In fact, according to 1 cor 14:22, signs are given so that believer and unbeliever alike can see and know, in this case the sign of the gift of tongues.  This understanding of what a sign is and what there purpose is, I think proves easily that an actual visible Sign was given toward John the Baptist, to represent a spiritual happening invisible to the natural eye.  From Joseph saying that the Dove, the actual bird, is a sign, a token, of truth that abode UPON John, to the understanding of what signs God has given man, it is my belief that this was an actual physical appearance of a Dove.

            Another incident of a Dove making his appearance, beside the baptism and Abraham, is Noah.  When Noah finally got answer to whether or not the flood was over, it was a Dove who brought it.  The last time he sent the dove, it did not return,  presumably to greener pastures.  I just find it intriguing that the animal who brought the sign to Noah which told him his answer, was a dove. 

            And why not?  Here we have all four Testaments, Joseph Smith, Abraham and Noah all using the Dove as a sign for God to tell them something of truth, to reveal the Holy Spirit of Promise.  This is a Sign as Joseph stated, “was instituted before the creation of the world, a witness for the Holy Ghost, and the devil cannot come in the sign of a dove.”  Pretty important sign for man to know when the Holy Ghost is given!  Satan is not able to have this sign when he is working his discontent.  Before the foundation of the world, in the eternal realm, the Dove has this same job.  What is his job?  To “signify the truth of the deed, as the dove is an emblem or token of truth and innocence”  This of course is also the inward job of the Holy spirit of promise, to signify the truth of the deed (D&C 132: 7). 

            Perhaps we should pay more attention to these signs, given to us from God to signify an event?  I would submit that there are likely other signs, if we were spiritually aware to understand them.


The Persecution Problem

  • Feb. 17th, 2009 at 12:16 AM

The Persecution Problem

            I believe most people are in the LDS church are cognizant of the idea of persecution.  They are even aware that great persecution has been suffered by men of God since the beginning.  For that we can turn to Adam, Abel and Cain.  The moment Adam came into the world and tried to seek further light and knowledge he was approached by someone seeking to stop him, to divert his path.  This same pattern continues on for all men of God.  Upon learning new things, accepting them and seeking to live after that manner of true faith, opposition arrives to thwart that progress and divert it.  Men of all classes heap up persecution of one form or other.

            Joseph was a prime example of this also.  The moment he told people about this remarkable change in his life, he was told to quit believing, called a liar and pushed around by men of much more persuasion then him.  Joseph made the solemn observation,  “...all the time suffering severe persecution at the hands of all classes of men, both religious and irreligious, because I continued to affirm that I had seen a vision. During the space of time which intervened between the time I had the vision and the year eighteen hundred and twenty-three—having been forbidden to join any of the religious sects of the day, and being of very tender years, and persecuted by those who ought to have been my friends and to have treated me kindly, and if they supposed me to be deluded to have endeavored in a proper and affectionate manner to have reclaimed me-...(JSH)”.  Upon reading the whole of the JSH, it is painfully obvious that this was his lot in life from the beginning, and yet he felt it to be to his benefit to receive it.  He was in fact given that promise, “My son, peace be unto thy soul; thine adversity and thine afflictions shall be but a small moment; And then, if thou endure it well, God shall exalt thee on high; thou shalt triumph over all thy foes. (D&C 121:7-8)”

            Throughout the text we find living examples of persecution displayed graphically, all for believing and worshipping God and his Christ in the correct manner.  Nephi was tortured by his brothers, tied up, beaten, verbally abused.  They eventually sought his life.  When enough was enough, Nephi was removed by the Lord with his family from the situation.  They said of Enoch, “and all men were offended because of him”.  They attempted to lay hands on him, but the Lord protected him (moses 7).  As was Noah, whos life was sought by the Nephilim for preaching Gods word (Moses 8).  Abraham, Joseph of Egypt, David, Moses, Isaiah, Ezekial, Paul, John, Alma, Alma the younger and his friends, Nephi iii, Mormon, Moroni, countless men in our dispensation, etc... All have this one thing in common, persecution.  Their manner of life was not consistent with those around them and they were thus persecuted for being not like the others. 

            At first glance it could be dismissed that this was/is the lot in life of exceptional men.  It could be dismissed that the majority of believers are not meant to be persecuted in this manner.  This however does not correlate with scripture.

            In 2 Tim. 3 Paul tells us, “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution”.  And the Lord told us in Joh 5, “The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.”  Are you a servant?  Do you live Godly in Christ Jesus?  If so, what should be happening as fruit?  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. (Gal. 4)”

            Whenever they were living the laws of God, men were persecuted for it.  The saints of the New Testament were constantly bolstered by Paul’s word to them, telling them, “that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer (2 Thes 1)”.  It was a forgone conclusion to Paul that the Saints would be persecuted, that it was to be their lot and that they would be rewarded for it.

            Joseph stated, “This one thing is sure, that they who will live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution; and before their robes are made white in the blood of the Lamb, it is to be expected, according to John the Revelator, they will pass through great tribulation. (HC 1:449.)”.  Also, “Those who cannot endure persecution, and stand in the day of affliction, cannot stand in the day when the Son of God shall burst the veil, and appear in all the glory of his Father, with all the holy angels. (HC 1:468.)” 

            Indeed persecution can be shown scripturally to not only be a byproduct of covenant keeping but the medium through which perfection is wrought. While strict law of ordinance and obedience, has not the power to perfect (Heb. 7), Persecution and Suffering do, “But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you (1peter 5)”.  In fact, this is said to be the medium through which our Savior found perfection, “...we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For ait became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings (Heb. 5)”.

            The Nephites of the BOM were persecuted and purged through the righteous enduring of it. “And they were lifted up in pride, even to the persecution of many of their brethren. Now this was a great evil, which did cause the more humble part of the people to suffer great persecutions, and to wade through much affliction.  Nevertheless they did fast and pray oft, and did wax stronger and stronger in their humility, and firmer and firmer in the faith of Christ, unto the filling their souls with joy and consolation, yea, even to the purifying and the sanctification of their hearts, which sanctification cometh because of their yielding their hearts unto God.”

            Finally the above quote in Helaman points out an interesting dichotomy which is consistent in scripture.  That is, there are only two camps.  They are those in prideful complacency who persecute and the repentant faithful who endure them.  Taking Helamans example, “pride which began to enter into the church—not into the church of God, but into the hearts of the people who professed to belong to the church of God-And they were lifted up in pride, even to the persecution of many of their brethren.” The same story was repeated in 4 Nephi,

“there were many churches which professed to know the Christ, and yet they did deny the more parts of his gospel, insomuch that they did receive all manner of wickedness, and did administer that which was sacred unto him to whom it had been bforbidden because of unworthiness.  And this church did multiply exceedingly because of iniquity, and because of the power of Satan who did get hold upon their hearts.  And again, there was another church which denied the Christ; and they did persecute the true church of Christ, because of their humility and their belief in Christ; and they did despise them because of the many miracles which were wrought among them.”

 

            Thus men divide themselves into those who have faith and lift others and those with pride who tear others down.  The BOM is full of examples of this, but more poignant to us is the warning from Moroni directly to us today, “And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.”

            So, the question than behooves us as saints; are we being persecuted?  If this is the manner of events that perfects us, are we in line?  If not, what laws can we live to reap the fruits that provide perfection? 


The Leaven hidden in the Meal *

  • Feb. 15th, 2009 at 4:57 PM

            I picked up on an interesting point today made by Joseph Smith concerning the message and mission of the Latter-Day servant, which I have not heard discussed in the past in the least.  I’d like to discuss it for a moment. 

            While studying the lesson in today’s manual (ch 25) which covers Joseph's discourses on Matthew 13 I felt a nudge to put it all together.  These are some powerful parables!  The meanings of course are not even now fully dug up. I think evidence of that is found in our discussion of them and Josephs explanations. 

            The Parable of the Leavened Bread is used by Joseph to summarize and explain the other parables in the chapter (tares, sower and mustard seed).  In the heading on page 302 the committee states, “The testimonies of the three witnesses and the latter-day scriptures are like the leaven that was hidden in the meal.”  This description is misplaced, as we will show.  Upon reading the actual discourse, the content therein is far more revelatory in nature and descriptive of  last-days events. 

 

Quoting the manual....

'And another parable spake He unto them. The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till the whole was leavened.' [Matthew 13:33.] It may be understood that the Church of the Latter-day Saints has taken its rise from a little leaven that was put into three witnesses. Behold, how much this is like the parable! It is fast leavening the lump, and will soon leaven the whole. ...

" 'Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind, which when it was full they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.' [Matthew 13:47-48.] For the work of this pattern, behold the seed of Joseph, spreading forth the Gospel net upon the face of the earth, gathering of every kind, that the good may be saved in vessels prepared for that purpose, and the angels will take care of the bad. 'So shall it be at the end of the world-the angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire, and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Jesus saith unto them, Have you understood all these things? They say unto Him, Yea, Lord.' [Matthew 13:49-51.] And we say, yea, Lord; and well might they say, yea, Lord; for these things are so plain and so glorious, that every Saint in the last days must respond with a hearty Amen to them.

" 'Then said He unto them, therefore every scribe which is instructed in the Kingdom of Heaven, is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things that are new and old.' [Matthew 13:52.]

"For the works of this example, see the Book of Mormon coming forth out of the treasure of the heart. Also the covenants given to the Latter-day Saints [the Doctrine and Covenants], also the translation of the Bible-thus bringing forth out of the heart things new and old, thus answering to three measures of meal undergoing the purifying touch by a revelation of Jesus Christ, and the ministering of angels, who have already commenced this work in the last days, which will answer to the leaven which leavened the whole lump. Amen."11

 

             Notice here a distinct difference in understanding considering the term ‘three witnesses’.  While it is true that we refer to the three witness of the Book Mormon with that terminology, I don’t believe Joseph was here, as inferred by the heading.

             Joseph first states, “The Kingdom of Heaven is like unto leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till the whole was leavened.' [Matthew 13:33.] It may be understood that the Church of the Latter-day Saints has taken its rise from a little leaven that was put into three witnesses. Behold, how much this is like the parable! It is fast leavening the lump, and will soon leaven the whole.”  

            The language used here is interesting.  Three measures of Meal had leaven hidden within them.  That leaven was hidden until the batch was done, the lump had grown, and the whole was leavened.  Of course, than it follows that the leaven would than be unhidden, or revealed, when the time was right.  Using the parables in the rest of the chapter, this revealing happens when the harvest is ripe, at the time of the division of wheat and tares, when the fish are removed from the net and separated, when the corruption in the  church (which the tares represent according to Joseph in the same discourse) are reaped and the church in purity remains.  Just from there we find the leaven to be a revelation.

            Following the inference in the heading, what would it be in the three witnesses of the BOM that eventually made this revelation happen?  What of the three witnesses testimony eventually leavens the whole?  What is HIDDEN in the three witnesses to the BOM?  Nothing.

            Joseph illustrates to us what the three measures of meal are , what those testimonies represent.  “"For the works of this example, see the Book of Mormon coming forth out of the treasure of the heart (1). Also the covenants given to the Latter-day Saints [the Doctrine and Covenants] (2), also the translation of the Bible (3)-thus bringing forth out of the heart things new and old, thus answering to three measures of meal... 

            The three measures of meal are the three testimonies available to us in the last days.  The BOM, the D&C and the Bible.   Hidden inside these three measures of meal is some leaven.  That leaven will be revealed at the time of the division of wheat and tares, bad fish from the good.

            Our prophet goes so far as to tell us what the leaven is.  “...Of the heart things new and old, thus answering to three measures of meal undergoing the purifying touch by a revelation of Jesus Christ, and the ministering of angels who have already commenced this work in the last days, which will answer to the leaven which leavened the whole lump. Amen.”

            This leaven will be revealed to us in the last days.  A revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ that is hidden in the scriptures but will be revealed to the world at the winding up scene, commencing the events in the other parables of revelation.  The angels are now doing the work, sowing the seed, dividing thoughts and ideals.  At some point, a revelation will be brought which will ‘purify’ revealed word in some manner.  Thus leavening the whole of Scripture and makeing the Loaf of Meal complete.  From our vomiting wolves we know that the seperation will be based on the word of God, those who receive meat form the Savior, and those who receive vomitted milk from men, prophets with covered eyes (Isaiah28). This purification of scripture of leaven will divide the sheep from the goats.

            Here we have Joseph Smith discussing the Servant and his Mission!  Jesus giving us a parable describing this event!  That is revelatory indeed.  Looking into the scriptures to back this theory and show we are on the same track reveals these ideas even stronger.  To discuss just a couple;

            In 3 Nephi we read; “ For in that day, for my sake shall the Father awork a work, which shall be a great and a bmarvelous cwork among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.   But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be amarred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that bmy wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil. Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause ahim to bring forth unto the bGentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be ccut off from among my people who are of the covenant.”  

            The words declared by a man will start a confrontation.  Some will believe, some not.  What will the words be about?  They will be the words of Jesus Christ!  Just as Joseph told us concerning the leaven hidden in the scriptures.  A revelation hidden in scripture, revealed by a man concerning our Lord will commence this work.  It isn’t Joseph, at least not in the probation he was teaching us in at the time.  This revelation will work as the redemption of Zion (DC 101), but will cause great persecution of the man who reveals it.
 

            For another description of this event we will turn to D&C 86;

 

 “And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in aorder the house of God, and to arrange by blot the cinheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God; While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to asteady the bark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning.  And all they who are not found written in the abook of remembrance shall find none inheritance in that day, but they shall be cut asunder, and their portion shall be appointed them among bunbelievers, where are cwailing and gnashing of teeth.”

 

            To review again, a man shall come with eternal words in front of the people.  He will utter eternal words, divide inheritances and steady the ark of God, which another man was not able to do.  We know what those eternal words will be about, a revelation of our Lord hidden in scripture.  And we know what they will do, provide inheritance for those who believe and cut asunder those who do not.  What is the next section about in the D&C?  The Wheat from the Tares. 

            Isaiah covers this event in great detail, repeatedly telling us the mission and message of the servant.  Here our modern prophet has told us too what he will do using Matthew 13:52, “'Then said He unto them, therefore every scribe which is instructed in the Kingdom of Heaven, is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things that are new and old.”  

            What do we call  a scribe that is instructed in the kingdom of Heaven?  A prophet.  And what do Prophets do, in particular the servant in this case?  He “bringeth forth out of his treasure things that are new and old.”   A prophet looks into the scriptures available, relates to us the old things that we understood and reveals new things within them that the world didn’t already have.  In most instances, the New is thrown to the swine who refuse to hear it. 

 

 

Enjoy, Dan

 

As a follow up, I’m including Gileadi’s analysis of the revelatory event.

 

The Lord's Work as a Revelatory Event

 

Our analysis of the terms great, marvelous, and work, also suggests that the Lord's work is preeminently revelatory in nature. It brings to light knowledge hidden up from the founda­tion of the world because of unbelief (Eth. 4:13-15). This "great and marvelous" knowledge appears in the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon and in other books.[1] Such knowledge will be revealed initially among the believing Gentiles. From these Gentiles it will go forth to the house of Israel.[2]  This additional reve­lation (see 2 Nephi 29:9) contains the "greater things" or more important truths (Morm. 8:12; Eth. 4:13). In relation to them, the Book of Mormon is called the "lesser part" (3 Nephi 26:6-10).

 

Much of this new revelation has to do with the last days, the time ushering in the millennial era of peace, as well as with the Millennium itself: a vision the Brother of Jared had in which he saw the end of time (Eth. 4:4-9; compare 3:25-27); a similar vision by the prophet Ether (Eth. 13:13; compare 12:5); a vision by Joseph in Egypt about his future descendants (2 Nephi 4:2; compare 3:5), a vision by Nephi on the mountain (1 Nephi 18:3; 2 Nephi 4:17, 25); teachings by Jesus to the Nephites that deal with the beginning and the end of the earth (3 Nephi 26:3-11); and visions by Moroni about our day (Morm. 8:34-35).

 

This new revelation includes knowledge of the mysteries of God.[3] It comprises all things shown to men in the past, things that were sealed up to come forth in their purity.[4] These revelations ultimately include words that are not within man's natural power to utter or write.[5] They consist of the "wonders of eternity," the mysteries of the kingdom of God "from days of old, and for ages to come" (D&C 76:2-10, 114).

 

These "great and marvelous" revelations nonetheless come forth in a time of wickedness among the Lord's people. Because the people of the Lord are not doing his work as they ought (2 Nephi 27:25-29), he is required to "do mine own work" (2 Nephi 27:21).[6] The new revelations, therefore, convince the Gentiles among whom they come forth of the error of their ways; the revelations show forth to all men the wickedness, abominations, and follies of the Gentiles among whom the gospel has already gone forth.[7]

 

Yet, the very coming forth of these great and marvelous rev­elations depends upon some Gentiles not hardening their hearts as their unrighteous brethren do (see Alma 12:10). When these more righteous among the Gentiles repent of their iniquity of their own accord, when they become clean before the Lord and truly exercise faith in him and become sanctified, then is the time that the Lord will bring forth to them his great and marvelous revelations (Eth. 4:4-7.)[8]

 

Of necessity, the revealing of the Lord's "work" comes through his appointed seer or seers. In large part, it involves the translation of ancient records (Mosiah 8:17-20; D&C 8:1-8). Al-though what the Lord reveals is given in plain language (2 Nephi 31:3), men do not understand or appreciate such revelation un­less they inquire of the Lord for themselves (1 Nephi 15:3; Eth. 4:7-13). Like Laman and Lemuel, those who harden their hearts fail to inquire of the Lord. They suppose that "the Lord maketh no such thing known" to them (1 Nephi 15:9). They harbor a superficial interest in the Lord's "work" only because of some wonder he might perform on their behalf (2 Nephi 15:19). They maintain, for all practical purposes, that the Lord has already "done his work" (2 Nephi 28:5-6). Although a man declares the "great and marvelous work" to them, they do not believe it (3 Nephi 21:9; Eth. 12:5).

 

Part of the great and marvelous work, therefore, consists of words condemning the wicked of the Lord's people. We find types of such condemnation in the words of Nephi the son of Helaman. Nephi prophesies the destruction and disinheritance of his people (Hel. 9:2; compare 7:28). Samuel the Lamanite like-wise prophesies the extinction of the Nephites and the Lord's redemption of the Lamanites (Hel. 16:16; compare 15:11-17). Lachoneus the governor also warns of secret combinations over-powering his people (3 Nephi 3:15-16).

 

The scriptural references I have cited, because they use the terms great, marvelous, and work, serve rhetorically as types. They teach us what kinds of things to expect when the Lord per-forms his great and marvelous work in the last days. They show both sides of the event, the positive and the negative. Making ourselves familiar with these types thus increases our understanding of the message of the Book of Mormon. Indeed, the book's great value lies in its message as a type of things to come.


[1] See 2 Nephi 27:21-23, 26, 29; Words of Mormon 1:11; 3 Nephi 5:8-9; Ether 4:4-7, 13-17.

[2] See 3 Nephi 21:9-12; 26:7-9; Ether 4:6, 13; D&C 35:7.

 

[3] See Jacob 4:8; Alma 10:5; 12:10; D&C 6:11.

[4] See 1 Nephi 14:26; 2 Nephi 27:10-11; 30:17-18; Mormon 5:8-9; Ether 3:25-26; 4:4-7.

[5] See Helaman 5:33, 45; 3 Nephi 17:16-17; 19:34-36; 26:14, 16.

[6] See 2 Nephi 27:21-29; 29:1-9; Mormon 8:34-41.

[7] See Mormon 8:34-41; Ether 12:19-35; D&C 6:11; 35:7.

[8] Compare 2 Nephi 27:23; 3 Nephi 26:7-9; Ether 4:13-16; D&C 35:7-18.

A Poem, wheat and tares-Eliza R Snow

  • Jan. 6th, 2009 at 9:28 PM

1. Though in the outward church below,
The wheat and tares together grow;
Jesus ere long will weed the crop,
And pluck the tares in anger up.
For soon the reaping time will come,
And angels shout the harvest home.
2. Will it relieve their horrors there,
To recollect their stations here;
How much they heard, how much they
knew,
How much among the wheat they grew?
3. No! this will aggravate their case,
They perish'd under means of grace;
To them the word of life and faith
Became an instrument of death.
4. We seem alike when thus we meet,
Strangers might think we all were wheat;
But to the Lord's all-searching eyes,
Each heart appears without disguise,
5. The tares are spared for various ends,
Some for the sake of praying friends;
Others the Lord, against their will,
Employs his counsels to fulfil.
6. But though they grow so tall and strong,
His plan will not require them long;
In harvest, when he saves his own,
The tares shall into hell be thrown.
7. Oh! awful thought, and is it so?
Must all mankind the harvest know?
Is every man a wheat or tare?
Me, for that harvest, Lord, prepare.


(A Collection of Sacred Hymns, selected by Emma Smith )



Orson Pratt

What kind of a revo lution would it work among the Lat ter‑day Saints if the revelation given in March, 1831, were carried out by them, “It is not given that one man should possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in s in?”  How much of a revol ution would it accomplish in Sa lt Lake City if this order of things should be brought about?  I think it would work a greater revo lution among this people than has ever been witnessed amongst them since they had an existence as a Ch urch.  (JD 15:355‑356)

 

Later in the same address Elder Pratt made the following observation:

 

There must be a reformation.  There will be a reformation among this people, but He will plead with the stronger ones of Zion, He will plead with this people, He will plead with those in high places, He will plead with the priesthood of this church, until Zion shall become clean before him.  I do not know but what it would be an utter impossibility to commence and carry out some principles pertaining to Zion right in the midst of this people.  They have strayed so far that to get a people who would conform to heavenly laws it may be needful to lead some from the midst of this people and commence anew in the regions round about in these mountains.  (JD 15:360)

 

 

 

John Taylor

 

I would be surprised if ten percent of those who claim to hold the Melchizedek priesthood will remain faithful to the gospel at the time of the seventh president and that there would be thousands that think they hold the priesthood at that time, but would not have it properly conferred upon them.  (Minutes of a meeting, September 7, 1886)

 

 

G. Q. Cannon

 

The day will come when man’s priesthood and authority will be called to question, and you will find that there will be hundreds who have no priesthood, but who believe they hold it, they are holding only an office in the church.  (Truth, 3:153)

 

 

Joseph Fielding Smith

 

It is a very apparent fact that we have traveled far and wide in the past 20 years.  What the future will bring I do not know.  But if we drift as far afield from fundamental things in the next 20 years, what will be left of the foundation laid by the Prophet Joseph Smith?  It is easy for one who observes to see how the apostasy came about in the primitive church of Christ.  Are we not traveling the same road?  (Joseph Fielding Smith Journal, 28 December 1938)

 

H. Verlan Anderson

 

To fail to consider the possibility that the members of the church are again “falling away” would be to ignore one of the most thoroughly documented lessons of history.  Especially is this true in light of the fact that the cultural, political, and educational life of Church members has become so deeply and thoroughly involved with that of non-members that they are overwhelmingly influenced by the “ways of the world.”  Through newspapers and magazines, motion pictures and television, schools and lecture halls, and a thoroughly integrated economic system, Church members come into close and continuous contact with those not of their faith.

 

Some may assume that a “Gentile apostasy” in these latter days cannot occur because Christ’s Church is here to stay this time.  They may assume that widespread departure from gospel principles by Church members is contrary to prophecy.  While the scriptures do assure us that the Church will continue to exist and be divinely led by prophets of the Lord right up until his Second Coming, they do not state that all, or even a majority of its members will follow those prophets.  On the contrary, they foretell extensive, and in some cases, almost total defection from true principles.  (The Great and Abominable Church of the Devil, pp. 169-170)

 

Moroni was similarly explicit in predicting false teachings among the saints.  Reflect upon the unmistakable implications of this point-blank indictment of members of the “holy church of God:”

 

“O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God?” (Mormon 8:38)

 

Since there is only one "holy church of God" on earth, and since it is being polluted, the blame therefore appears to rest upon the teachers and hypocrites within that church.  (The Great and Abominable Church of the Devil, pp. 170-171, underline added)

 

 

Pres. Benson

 

Not only are there apostates within our midst, but there are also apostate doctrines that are sometimes taught in our classes and from our pulpits and that appear in our publications.  And these apostate precepts of men cause our people to stumble.  As the Book of Mormon, speaking of our day, states: “They have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men” (2 Nephi 28:14).  (Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, Pg.89‑90)

 

 

Watchmen - what of the night?  We must respond by saying that all is not well in Zion.  (Conference Report, May 1986, Pg. 4.  See Isaiah 21:11.)

 

 

The Lord declares that the whole Church and all the children of Zion are under condemnation because of the way we have treated the Book of Mormon.  This condemnation has not been lifted, nor will it be until we repent.  (See D&C 84:51-81.)

 

The Lord states that we must not only say but we must do!  We have neither said enough nor have we done enough with this divine instrument--the key to conversion.  As a result, as individuals, as families, and as the Church, we sometimes have felt the scourge and judgment God said would be "poured out upon the children of Zion" because of our neglect of this book (D&C 84:58).

 

The Lord inspired His servant Lorenzo Snow to reemphasize the principle of tithing to redeem the Church from financial bondage.  In those days the General Authorities took that message to the members of the Church.  So too in our day the Lord has inspired His servant to reemphasize the Book of Mormon to get the Church out from under condemnation--the scourge and judgment.  (Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, Pg.63-6.  See also A Witness and a Warning, Pg. vii-viii and p.9)


Bearing Evidence of Neglect *

  • Dec. 29th, 2008 at 8:55 PM

You could understand a hesitant nature as Joseph turned and looked back. headed to Carthage jail for the last time.  He had wanted to take the saints to the Rocky Mountains.  He felt and had prophesied that they would go there and become a vast people in the shadows of that cathedral.  They indeed did but Joseph didn't go with them.  He left a church in turmoil.  Like leaving for vacation by saying good-bye to his irate baby at the babysitters house.  Indeed, the lower laws have been embraced and the saints have shook hands with the Gentiles now.  Joseph had much to worry about.  It may have been the fault of a people unwilling to live Celestial laws in a Terestial existence but Joseph knew from several personal insights, including the two discussed below, that when the servants of God returned to make the house aright they would find corruption muddying the once clears waters of revelation.  Anxiety over this is prevalent in the dreams below but lets read them to find parallels and what they tell us about us. 

The last recorded dream we have in our possession is recorded below....

I was back in Kirtland, Ohio, and thought I would take a walk out by myself, and view my old farm, which I found grown up with weeds and brambles, and altogether bearing evidence of neglect and want of culture. I went into the barn, which I found without floor or doors, with the weather-boarding off, and was altogether in keeping with the farm.

While I viewed the desolation around me, and was contemplating how it might be recovered from the curse upon it, there came rushing into the barn a company of furious men, who commenced to pick a quarrel with me.

The leader of the party ordered me to leave the barn and farm, stating it was none of mine, and that I must give up all hope of ever possessing it.

I told him the farm was given me by the Church, and although I had not had any use of it for some time back, still I had not sold it, and according to righteous principles it belonged to me or the Church.

He then grew furious and began to rail upon me, and threaten me, and said it never did belong to me nor to the Church.

I then told him that I did not think it worth contending about, that I had no desire to live upon it in its present state, and if he thought he had a better right I would not quarrel with him about it but leave; but my assurance that I would not trouble him at present did not seem to satisfy him, as he seemed determined to quarrel with me, and threatened me with the destruction of my body.

While he was thus engaged, pouring out his bitter words upon me, a rabble rushed in and nearly filled the barn, drew out their knives, and began to quarrel among themselves for the premises, and for a moment forgot me, at which time I took the opportunity to walk out of the barn about up to my ankles in mud.

When I was a little distance from the barn, I heard them screeching and screaming in a very distressed manner, as it appeared they had engaged in a general fight with their knives. While they were thus engaged, the dream or vision ended. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 p. 393)

In the dream the vineyard is likened unto Josephs old barn and property.  The dream I believe, is a bit more specific than the below parable, speaking of the church proper and not the broader idea of the vineyard as a whole.   Joseph begins by telling of its appearance being in disarray.  He refers to a "curse" that has been put upon it.  I can't help but think this is a continuation of our condemnation, which started in Josephs day and our continual decline in revelation and celestial law.  

Joseph views the place and is rather sad at its degenerate state.  He even ponders how to fix it up (what a work that would be!).  A "company" of men than come in arguing, tell Joseph it isn't his, though they can't seem to agree on who's it is.  They threaten Joseph with his life.  Joseph says whatever, you can have it and determines to leave.  This tells me that we are not talking about an eternal spiritual inheritance here, but rather a physical structure, as Joseph would have argued harder to keep it.  Organizations, buildings, systems people who worship them, etc...the expendable part of the church.  The guy continues to tear into him, but another group enters the fray claiming ownership.  While these two parties are arguing, Joseph peaceably leaves.

Of course I liken this to the Servant, coming causing a stir amongst the church and its people and leaving to the wilderness out the backdoor (3 Ne. 21: 9-10).  The servant steps in to the situation for a moment.  His presence is alarming to those who are in charge.  He states his right to set the church in order  (section 85).   They fight him over it, and he decides to take those who will come with him and turn the "church" (barn) entirely over to the hand of flesh.

When he/they leave its a sticky situation.  Mud covers them which would slow the departure but mainly just leave unsightly residue that would need to be cleansed later, on all those who go with him.  The mud would be cleaned and a better organization set up when they get to a new inheritance (JS-M 1: 27).

As he leaves, Joseph hears the men fight for their lives over it.  I would assume that these two parties are the makers of the covenant of death (Isa. 28: 15, 18).  The Church Corporation and the Gov't they shook hands with.  The Gov't brings the knives to the party and all those who relied on the arm of flesh are taken off guard by it.  While those who recognized the true servant of God depart for a better place with mud on their clothes from past experiences (2 nephi 28:14)

 
The next text is a Parable given to Joseph via revelation which tells of a similar event. 

 A certain nobleman had a spot of land, very choice; and he said unto his servants: Go ye unto my vineyard, even upon this very choice piece of land, and plant twelve olive-trees; And set watchmen round about them, and build a tower, that one may overlook the land round about, to be a watchman upon the tower, that mine olive-trees may not be broken down when the enemy shall come to spoil and take upon themselves the fruit of my vineyard.  Now, the servants of the nobleman went and did as their lord commanded them, and planted the olive-trees, and built a hedge round about, and set watchmen, and began to build a tower. And while they were yet laying the foundation thereof, they began to say among themselves: And what need hath my lord of this tower?  And consulted for a long time, saying among themselves: What need hath my lord of this tower, seeing this is a time of peace? Might not this money be given to the exchangers? For there is no need of these things. And while they were at variance one with another they became very slothful, and they hearkened not unto the commandments of their lord. And the enemy came by night, and broke down the hedge; and the servants of the nobleman arose and were affrighted, and fled; and the enemy destroyed their works, and broke down the olive-trees. Now, behold, the nobleman, the lord of the vineyard, called upon his servants, and said unto them, Why! what is the cause of this great evil? (DC 101:44-51)


This section begins with the building of the barn, establishing a foundation whereon a marvelous work could be built in the future (D&C 64: 33).  The foundation was supposed to be the Church of Christ and of the firstborn and the Kingdom of God.  But alas the barn was built but the tower never finished. 

We hear the words of the servants, the watchmen (Isa. 56: 10), trying to decide what to with the goods that the foundation is producing.  The Barn has been built, but the watch tower never finished.  These watchmen begin to argue amongst themselves.  They see no need to build a tower (relationship with god, from which warning springs for Israel), as they are in a time of peace!  Peace, all is well in Zion!  They become at variance with each other.  They give the sacred money to the building of Babylon.  They become lazy in their callings, even falling asleep on the job.  All of these descriptions Isaiah uses to describe the prophet priest and leaders of Ephraim in the last day (Isa. 56: 10-11; 28: 7).  As a result, the Barn is run over.  It is left in disarray by the enemies of the Lord.  Just as Joseph saw it upon his return, the servants are at odds with each other and have left the whole property with a curse and in shambles.  

In this parable we see what Joseph does with the property...
 
And the lord of the vineyard said unto one of his servants: Go and gather together the residue of my servants, and take all the strength of mine house, which are my warriors, my young men, and they that are of middle age also among all my servants, who are the strength of mine house, save those only whom I have appointed to tarry;  And go ye straightway unto the land of my vineyard, and redeem my vineyard; for it is mine; I have bought it with money.  Therefore, get ye straightway unto my land; break down the walls of mine enemies; throw down their tower, and scatter their watchmen.  And inasmuch as they gather together against you, avenge me of mine enemies, that by and by I may come with the residue of mine house and possess the land. (D&C 101:55-58)

Having no use of the building in it's run down state.  Having no use of the watchmen who have constituted enemies.  Having no use for the corrupt version of the church that the evil watchmen had built in the place of the sure foundation, Joseph is told to walk away from it.  He prophecies here the scattering of those watchmen (a covenant curse is to be scattered, not gathered).  The dream remarked that they largely do this to themselves because of their bickering with the Gov't of the land, to whom they owe their statehood and tax exempt status.  The Lord uses his left hand and the knife of the enemy to scatter them.  Then, using the foundation originally built, they rebuild and grow Zion for the last time.

We are given the promise of his return, the turmoil it will bring and the cleansing of the people in Isaiah, repeatedly.  But here above we are given two instances of Joseph prophecying of that now near event.  May we have the faith to see through the bickering and understand the voice and servants of God.  Things are not always as they seem, thus only those who take the holy spirit for their guide and are not deceived by false owners, prophets, will recognize and gather with the carcass in the wilderness (D&C 45: 57). 

CONCLUSIONS
With my brother in law, its always "whats the take home message".  There are three main points pointed out here that are pertinent to us in the vineyard these last days; Joseph's role, the slothful bickering servants role and who do we follow?
 
  1.  Josephs role is that of an innocent leader doing his job.  When he returns (as the Rod or spokesman for the Davidic Servant unto the houses of Joseph), he is not recognized by those who presently run the farm that he established.  These men threaten him wtih bodily harm.  H knows when to leave, gets reinforcement and rebuild.
  2.  The slothful servants are running the farm at the time of His return.  It is a time of disarray.  They are asleep as to the issues.  They consider their authority to be supreme and do not recognize the true servant of God.  They have ruined the farm through mismanagement.  They have built Babylon instead of Zion.  Like the people they have charge over, Babylon overtakes them and they are scattered.  Instead of warning the people they have taught another doctrine, that of  "peace, all is well in Zion".


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Some relevant Isaiah, to lighten the mood
(chapter 53, commentary by Gileadi)
 
 

Isaiah

Chapter 53

 

Isaiah 53:1

 1 ¶ WHO hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

 

***The revelation is talked about in chapter 28. There it was a question whether people would go on from the lesser portion of the word of God to the greater portion – in other words from the fundamentals (milk) to the deeper topics (meat), including direct revelation and divine instruction.  (see 28:9)  Most people are no receptive to this higher instruction that is offered to them.  There is a dichotomy between those who do accept and those who don’t.  In Isaiah, it is always the few that do and the many do not accept revelation and divine instruction. 

 

***So it is here.  “Who has believed our revelation?”  Some yes, but very few overall.  Some go on and accept divine revelation from God and hold fast to those things.  They keep the laws of God and all things that he has revealed through his servants, the prophets.  But most do not.  The majority of the people are in an apostate or descending mode, descending down the spiritual ladder, and don’t come back up.  That’s why the judgements of God come upon them.  They are even losing what they had. 

 

***The pairing of these two ideas – who has believed our revelation and on whose account has the arm of the Lord been revealed – the paralleling of these two ideas tells you that those who believe the revelation are those on whose account the arm of the Lord has been revealed.  In other words, the arm of the Lord is revealed to those who believe the revelation.  This implies that those who don’t believe God’s revelation don’t accept the arm of God.  They do not understand what the arm of the Lord represents.  It is a person. 

 

***The two arms of the God seen in 51:5 are righteousness and salvation.  Salvation is the Lord himself.  Righteousness is the servant or forerunner who establishes righteousness so that salvation may come.  These are the two arms that judge the people.  In this case, we are talking about the arm of salvation.  However, if you don’t accept the one arm, you won’t accept the other.  If you don’t accept the forerunner and all the preparatory work he does, you will not be in a position to accept the other. 

 

***In this case, the arm of the Lord appears to be talking about the suffering person who is the Lord Himself.

 

Isaiah 53:2

 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.  (Like a sapling he grew up in his presence, a stalk out of arid ground.  He had no distinguishing appearance that we should notice him; he had no pleasing aspect, that we should find him attractive.)

 

***The sapling and stalk idea is similar to chapter 11:1, which talks about the stalk of Jesse (shoot, stalk, branch, graft).  Those are messianic titles.  These are all metaphors that describe the messianic individual.  Jeremiah literally calls the Lord’s Servant the branch. 

 

***Growing up in his presence and out of arid ground is a contrast.  Arid ground implies a cursed state.  This, in turn, implies wickedness or apostasy by people in general at the time of his growing up.  Yet, he himself grows up in the presence of the Lord, meaning that he himself has access to God; he is not cut off from his presence as most of the people are cut off because of their wickedness.  This is quite a contrast between him and the people with whom he grows up.  He is not a charismatic personality that is a natural charmer, statesman or very popular. 

 

***While there are many word links throughout Isaiah to other parts, these 10 verses are different in that there are very few links to other parts of the book.  While the Servant is marred in chapter 52 and healed in chapter 57, this person in this chapter dies.  However, 52:1 also tells us that he awakes and arises.  He is part of the same structure of the Zion motif that awakes and arises, therefore he is also resurrected. 

 

Isaiah 53:3

 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

 

***In Isaiah’s context, the majority of the people are already rejecting God.  Therefore, when this person appears, he represents what they oppose.  This person comes from God and reflects God in all that he does.  Yet he is met with disdain and rejecting.  His lifestyle is a contradiction to their own.  He gets very bad treatment here from those who should have welcomed and sustained him.  This reiterates the suffering and humiliation he encounters.  However, from Isaiah’s structures, this is a necessary prelude to salvation.  There is no exaltation without a prior humiliation.  There is no salvation without prior suffering.  The higher you go on the spiritual ladder, the more humiliation and suffering you have to go through.  From Isaiah’s context, this person descends below them all. 

 

Isaiah 53:4

 4 ¶ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

 

***We thought he was under some kind of curse of God because he couldn’t seem to come out from under this problem.  Yet, what was actually happening was that he was enduring the curse that was ours and he took upon himself.  This person is not guilty of any sin or transgression that would cause covenant curses to come upon him.  So these adversities are not through his own fault. 

 

Isaiah 53:5

 5 But he [was] wounded (…pierced…) for our transgressions, [he was] bruised (…crushed…) for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him (: the price of our peace he incurred…); and with his stripes we are healed.

 

***This person is some kind of proxy for the rest of us.  Note the pronouns: “our transgressions,” “our iniquities,” ”we did esteem him stricken.”  There is a spokesman (speaking on behalf of God’s people) who is speaking about him.  It is no longer the Lord speaking about the Servant; it is the Servant speaking about the Lord.  There is a person who really knows this person and what his life is all about, what happened to him really.  Whereas, we at the time it happened were not aware.  This person is now pointing out what really happened. 

 

***The piercing and crushing indicate what happens to him.  This links to the suffering of Christ on the cross with the piercing of the nail to his hands and feet and the spear to his side.  He was crushed on the way to the cross.  This occurred not for any iniquity of his own. 

 

***The difference between transgression and iniquity.  Transgression of the Laws of God is a sin to the person performing the act.  Iniquity is the sin that is passed down from generation to generation.  These can include behavioral patterns, etc. that are the results of sin.  They are cumulative.  They result in covenant curses that are also passed down, causing the people to labor in adverse situations.  These are passed on from generation to generation.  He took all of this upon himself. 

 

***Peace is a word link to other parts of Isaiah.  It is the Lord himself who brings about peace in Isaiah.  Also, being healed is synonymous to salvation.  The main theme of this verse is that he is suffering these things for our salvation.  He is doing this as a proxy, for us.  Those who receive peace for whom he pays the price are the righteous, those who repent of their transgressions.  This implies that there is only salvation for those who do repent.  He suffers for their transgression.  This is part of the law of justice.  Under the law of justice, someone must pay the price for transgression.  He does this, enabling mercy to take place for those who repent.  This also implies that for those who don’t repent, there is no mercy.  There is no peace for the wicked.  They themselves must suffer under the law of justice. 

 

Isaiah 53:6

 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

 

***Again the pronouns “we” and “us.”  “We” are identified as sheep.  Sheep are kosher animals and elsewhere in Isaiah, the Lord’s people are referred to as his flock.  This is talking about the covenant people of the Lord, not the gentiles.  Those who receive this peace or salvation are His own covenant people.  This suggests that those who are not His covenant people do not inherit peace and salvation. 

 

***We are all gone astray, going in different directions, straying away from God and the law and the covenant, and the Lord brought together on him the iniquity of us all.  We are all scattered and he gathers them all up and dumps them all on him.  This includes the iniquity of even those who don’t repent.  All they have to do is repent, and he already suffered their iniquity.  Whether they repent or not, he still suffered for their iniquity. 

 

***Each of us going our own way implies that we have all left God’s way. 

 

Isaiah 53:7

 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

 

***Twice it states that he opened not his mouth.  He could have opened his mouth and defended himself.  He chose not to speak up because that is what God wanted him to do.  He was to be submissive.  God then inflicted him with harassment, slaughter, arrest and trial, being pierced, being crushed, bearing our sufferings, being shunned, and being to be worth nothing (when he was of most worth).  The lamb led to slaughter is a sacrificial idea.  It appears again in verse 10 as an offering for guilt.  In Hebrew it is “asham” (aleph shin mem) which in anciently sacrifice under the Law of Moses that must be offered when a man transgressed.  The lamb led to slaughter reminds of the Passover lamb and is another metaphor.  The Passover lamb was proxy for the firstborn of Israel, that they would not die.  Here, he is proxy also for the firstborn of God’s people who will not die spiritually or physically.  He is led to slaughter, meaning he dies. 

 

***He comes before the people of God, his sheep, the covenant people.  He is sheared, indicating his clothes are taken away. 

 

Isaiah 53:8

 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. ?  (By arrest and trial he was taken away.  Who can apprise his generation that he was cut off from the land of the living for the crime of my people to whom the blow was due?)

 

***This again reinforces Isaiah’s indication of this man as our proxy.  He dies for his people’s crime.  Note the “my people” which is the covenant formula.  For their transgressions, justice needed to be done.  He suffered for their transgressions.

 

***This also implies that it was done formally, by trial and arrest.  He wasn’t just mugged in a wood.  He went through an official execution. 

 

***”Generation” implies more than just the covenant people.  It suggests almost a dynasty, possibly his lineage.  In verse 10 it talks about his having lineage, offspring.  Being cut off from the land of the living almost happens to Hezekiah, but he is healed.  The same with the Servant.  However, this person dies and his death is part of his suffering and humiliation. 

 

Isaiah 53:9

 9 And he made his grave with the wicked (He was appointed among the wicked in death…), and with the rich in his death; because (…yet…) he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.

 

***In the Masoretic text, these first two lines are reversed.  The Servant/Tyrant parallel helps to identify that they were reversed.  He was not appointed among the wicked in his burial, nor among the rich in his death, but just the reverse, being among the wicked in death and rich in his burial.  Christ of course dies between two thieves and was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea, a wealthy man. 

 

***The word “appoint” is also used with the Lord’s Servant.  Both are appointed by God, one higher on the spiritual ladder than himself, who is his Lord.  Each one has his Lord who is above him.  To us, Jehovah is our Lord.  Yet, on his wrung of the spiritual ladder, there is one above him.  We also know that the first two lines of verse 9 are reversed because the wicked to violence and the rich are deceptive. 

 

Isaiah 53:10

 10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.  (But the Lord willed to crush him, causing him suffering, that, if he made his life an offering for guilt, he might se his offspring and prolong his days, and that the purposes of he Lord might prosper in his hand.)

 

***To crush is like to crush the life out of something or to crush his spirit.  The Lord willed that.  In order to bring about the redemption of the world, whoever gives him their covenantal allegiance can obtain salvation and peace and healing for the sake of so many people in their lost and fallen state.  For their sake, the Lord willed to crush him, that he made his life an offering for their guilt (not his own).  On the higher levels of the spiritual ladder, one does not suffer for ones own sins, but for the sins of others.  He could not be a proxy for others if he himself was a transgressor. The higher you go on the spiritual ladder, the greater or more effective is the proxy role you can perform.  Hezekiah’s offering his life only merited deliverance of his people from the besieging Assyrians.  Those on the seraph level, can merit more than that.  On the level of the spiritual ladder where the Lord himself suffers and dies, all sins and iniquities can be taken away.  This is the highest proxy function known in Isaiah. 

 

***Note the mention of offspring here and burial in verse 9.  Both these are covenant blessings.  In the tyrant parallel, the tyrant has no offspring or burial.  All the tyrant’s people are destroyed and his corpse lies unburied.  In other words, the king of Babylon suffers from covenant curses while this person enjoys covenant blessings.  One may argue that the offspring referred to here is adopted or spiritual offspring.  However, in Isaiah, the literal meaning is always the first one that applies.  If he did not have literal offspring, he would be under a curse.  But God has provided that he is not under a curse because he is innocent. 

 

***Days are prolonged when you honor father and mother (fourth commandment).  In the Old Testament, if you honor father and mother, your days are prolonged on the land by your offspring.  Abraham has his offspring as the sands of the sea, etc., where as the King of Babylon has his offspring cut off.  (see chapter 14)

 

***That the purposes of the Lord might prosper in his hand is referring to his right hand, the Servant.  This is transitioning to the next section of text.  This can also apply to any of the Lord’s servants.  They cannot be empowered if the whole thing rests on a false foundation.  The Servant himself, along with all the rest of us, are sinners and have need to repent of our transgressions of the law of God.  When we do, we are forgiven because he is our proxy and has taken our guilt and transgressions upon himself.  If he had not done this, the purposes of the Lord would not prosper in us.  The Lord has done this, provided this proxy atonement for our sins, and based on that foundation, we can function as his servants. 

 

Isaiah 53:11

 11 He shall see of the travail (…toil…) of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.  (…:and by bearing their iniquities, shall my servant, the righteous one, vindicate many.)

 

***Who will see the toil of whose soul?  The second “his” is referring to the Servant, the one who establishes righteousness.  He too suffers.  Anyone on the spiritual ladder who performs a messianic or proxy role suffers.  They don’t suffer as much as Christ suffered, but they suffer.  Again, not for their own transgressions, but for others. 

 

***Now the Lord Himself is speaking.  He has done his work of atonement, his proxy salvation, now he talks about the Servant again.  Between the end of chapter 52 and here, there is a chiasm of sorts – a-b-a – where the middle part of the chiasm is the Lord Himself. 

 

***The Servant also goes through humiliation and exaltation.  His appearance is marred beyond human likeness – he appalled people – yet he became exceedingly eminent and highly exalted.  (see 52:13-14)  Like King Hezekiah, he has toil of soul.  When the person endures this well and suffers in humble submission and the Lord sees it, there comes a point where it is enough and the Lord is satisfied. 

 

***Knowledge is a covenant term.  It implies knowledge of the covenant as well as knowledge of God and His ways.  He knows that according to the terms of the covenant, if he intercedes on behalf of others and pays the price for their transgressions, he through his sacrifice can merit others deliverance.  In Hezekiah’s case, that is limited to physical deliverance.  In the Lord’s case, it includes all deliverance. 

 

***Knowledge is parallel with “bearing their iniquities.”  Because of his knowledge of the terms of the covenant, he is willing to bear their iniquities.  The Lord does this.  The Servant has seen the Lord do this and does the same thing on a lesser level.  This servant is the one who personifies righteousness.  He is the model of righteousness for us to follow.  Because of his knowledge of the terms of the covenant, he knows that he can do this for them.  Because of this, they do not have to suffer death of the besieging Assyrians or other calamities, but because of the Servant’s intercession, they can be delivered. 

 

Isaiah 53:12

 12 Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

 

***The Lord Himself does this in the early part of the chapter.  Here, however, the Lord is speaking of his Servant who does the same thing on a lower scale.  The Servant emulates the Lord. 

 

***Every one of these sentences has a type in Israel’s history.  Caleb received an inheritance among the great (when the Israelites came into the Promised Land) because he was one of the two spies sent out who remained faithful to the Lord when they came back.  Joshua and Caleb gave a true report.  They were the only ones who came out of Egypt who inherited the Promised Land. 

 

***David divided the spoil with the mighty in his war with the Philistines.  David provides a type for this person.  Hezekiah is also a type, pouring out his soul unto death.  David was also number with criminals after being anointed by Samuel.  Christ was numbered with criminals. 

 

***Job bore the sins of many (his children).  Job was smitten.  However, we see that in his proxy role, Job was only paying the price for others sins, not his own. 

 

***Moses made intercession for the entire nation when they made the golden calf. 

 

***The Servant is like a lot of these heroes of the Old Testament, performing many of the same functions.  All the major events in Israel’s history are roles that the Servant assumes.  He would have to be on the same spiritual level as those characters of the Old Testament were. 

 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Frustrated

  • Dec. 29th, 2008 at 1:17 PM

Just typed a long excerpt on The mosaic law versus the Higher law and that we are living the lower as a general populace today.  BUT...adios, it's erased now. 

:-)

The "FEW"

  • Dec. 17th, 2008 at 1:42 PM

In my last entry I quoted this verse;
 
"They wear astiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and bwhoredoms, they have all cgone astray save it be a dfew, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are eled, that in many instances they do ferr because they are taught by the precepts of men."
(2 Nephi 28:14)
 
Admittedly, this verse has become one of my recent favorites because of its very descriptive nature.  There is a particular word in there that I have found to be a key word of sorts.  It should be rather obvious which word that is, based on the title.  Looking it up, there are 114 uses of the word "few" in the canon, and elsewhere.    In general, a descriptive pattern is illustrated in the verses where the few are mentioned, as a people or type of a people.  "Modern" scripture proved to be far more rife with that description that the old and New testaments, though the savior did his part to mention it.  Anyway, an analysis of those verses;

In reading the verse above my I became oddly motivated to find out who the "few" are.  This moment came when I was reading another scripture in Mormon 8:36 
 
And I know that ye do awalk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not blift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of cvery fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.
(Mor. 8:36)

2 Nephi 28 and Mormon 8 are similar chapters, as both describe a great and abominable church that fights and ruins the true one.  Both have been remarked by our leaders as describing us, though Mormon 8 far more often, as shown in several earlier posts.  For my purpose though, the description of the people in those churches, their attributes and desires, are more useful.  Both chapters us the word "few" to describe the people.  Moroni says the Few are those in the Holy Church of God who do not pollute it with pride etc... Nephi takes it a bit further by explicitly calling them the Humble Followers of Christ.  Being that one belongs to the Church of God, and one belongs to the Church of Abomination we could wrongly assume that their membership is in differing church establishments here on earth, a good one and a bad one.  However, using the above verses and their surrounding friends in context, we can show plainly that they likely worship in the same temporal building.  Starting in Nephi, the Few are taught by men who teach the precepts of men.  These men are obviously teaching false doctrines, the precepts of men mingled with scripture.  They are teaching false doctrines and are thus False teachers, they've gone astray and are full of pride, believing they know and understand sound doctrine, not willing to hear otherwise.  Verse 12 then tells us distinctly that the people teaching the humble followers untrue doctrines are part of the False Church, though they attend, worship, with the Few.  They, the majority, have polluted the Churches they attend.  They go to "Church" (temporal) demanding the wearing of fine clothing.  They insist on having their building beautiful and well adorned.   Because of this pride they have corrupted the church.  Because of this misplaced zealousness, they persecute the poor, the needy, the meek.  They themselves are drunk with the spirit of "All is well is Zion!".  As such they insist on and teach the commandments of men.  Calling good evil and evil good, denying the reliance on the holy ghost and preaching the reliance on the leaders, teaching "follow the prophet".  As such they are drunk with zealousness, Isaiah's water down wine, crying" come ye and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and tomorrow shall be as this day and much more abundant."  It is an intoxicating thing, this successful number driven game they play,  so much so that even the humble followers of Christ, the Few may be led away by their teaching.  Indeed, they worship together on Sunday, but their hearts are far apart, with the Few finding the majority more and more disallusioned with strong drink.
     Moroni similarly points out that the Few and the Majority belong to the same "church", they worship together.  Whereas Nephi was more descriptive in giving the Few a name, "humble followers of CHRIST" (notice, not the Followers of a prophet, but of Christ), Moroni is more descriptive in the name of the Church that they worship together in, calling it the "Holy Church of God" (vs. 38).  Again, we find Nephi's polluters here doing their work.  What does Moroni call them?  Teachers, Pollutions, Hypocrites, same as Nephi.  Here again you find them teaching false doctrines, adorning their churches, insisting on fine clothing, persecuting the poor and meek and needy with their drunkenness.  But, amongst them we find the few. 
     I have made it painfully obvious what Church I am referring to, and I believe these two true prophets are referring to.  The Holy Church of God wherein truth CAN be found, but is not always taught as the Majority have ran with deception.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints.  Nephi Gives us another description of those who belong to the Church of the Lamb of God, instead of the Church of the Devil in First Nephi 14.  Here again, he describes those who belong to the Church of the Lamb (spiritual) as "few".  They are encompass the same land mass (the whole earth) but, the church of the Lamb's dominions are SMALL, whereas the whore sat on the whole face, over many waters.  Belonging to the same body though one remains small and firmly on the ground and the other is huge and drifts with the waves.  Intriguingly, Isaiah tells us a couple of times that one the Lord returns to finish the work He will be upset to find His children scattered throughout the face of the Land.  Seems to me, that the scattering has been done by us refusing and rejecting the principle of Gathering, which principle Zion will be built on (read all of the D&C).  Now, knowing this lets define the attributes of the few in Modern-Day scriptures, and apply that knowledge to our lives.   Taking the word FEW and reading the described attributes.
 
  • 2 Nephi 28-Led By the Precepts of men but have to find truth therein by the Holy Ghost (vs 14, 31)
  • D&C 33:4-Err in many instances because they are taught by Priestcraft, corrupt minds
  • 1 Nephi 14-Scattered small groups (13, 14)
  • Amla 21:12-Looking, searching, seeking for MORE of Gods word (see also 1 nephi 14, 2 Nephi 28, a bible, a bible...)
  • Alma 33:19-23-Believe in the gift of Healing, the Gifts of the Spirit.  And UNDERSTAND what that means
  • Mormon 8:36-Do NOT wear fine apparel (white shirt, dark suit, flaxen cord), are not prideful, do not envy things, or persecute others for their beleifs of socio economic status.
  • 3 Nephi 7:21-They are visited by the power and spirit of God and testify of it
  • 3 Nephi 14:14-have found the straight gate and narrow way of Baptism by fire
  • DC 121:34-They are Chosen Because they reject the things of the World, Idols and pride; Don't aspire to mens honors, the pharicees seats in the high places; Do not exercise Dominion or compulsion over other men, like making someone dress or groom differently to receive preisthood blessings
  • DC 132:22-perhaps the biggest demarcation, They SEE CHRIST in THIS WORLD, or are definately searching for that gift
  • Finally, their mantra is FOLLOW CHRIST, not FOLLOW THE LEADER or arm of flesh ( a mediator for a mediator? perposterous.  All men should be prophets in order to have the secrets and direction of God given them

To close this rambling thought line, is should be noted the Christ told us in the Last days it will be for us as in the days of Noah.  How many people were let onto the boat in the Days of Noah? 
 
  aWhich sometime were bdisobedient, when once the clongsuffering of God waited in the days of dNoah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were esaved by fwater.
(1 peter 3:20)



 
 

 
 

Vomitting Wolves *

  • Nov. 10th, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Some thoughts.

Sheep are of course members of the Fold.  Wolves than in sheep's clothing are than members who inwardly take to devouring the sheep and the food for their own good.  Shepherds who feed themselves as Jeremiah states. 

This analogy of course applies in this one way, bad people amongst the Good.  They generally ruin the good with a disturbing influence.  Nephi tells us about them and their effect  in 2 Nephi 28:114
 
"They wear astiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and bwhoredoms, they have all cgone astray save it be a dfew, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are eled, that in many instances they do ferr because they are taught by the precepts of men."

Notice here in referring to the humbles followers of Christ the word FEW is used.  The same word is used by Moroni to describe a small elect in Mormon 8.  Also, even amongst those very few of the sheep, they may be led to err, and for what cause?  "Because they are taught by the precepts of men". 

Incredibly telling omission here by Nephi, in my opinion.  Some don't think this verse applies to us, but let's not forget, even a very modern church president, President Benson, applied this very verse to us,

Not only are there apostates within our midst, but there are also apostate doctrines that are sometimes taught in our classes and from our pulpits and that appear in our publications.  And these apostate precepts of men cause our people to stumble.  As the Book of Mormon, speaking of our day, states: “They have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men” (2 Nephi 28:14).  (Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, Pg.89‑90)


And to what level of apostasy have we reached?  What amount of the things we now see and discuss have diverged from the spirit of Truth as manifested during the restoration and Brother Joseph?  For some perspective we have these thoughts by President Joseph Fielding Smith some 70 years ago;

Joseph Fielding Smith

“I attended sessions of meetings for the institute teachers, held in the assembly room on the fourth floor of the Church Office Building. I cannot say that I was very greatly edified. Too much philosophy of the worldly nature does not seem to mix well with the fundamentals of the gospel. In my opinion many of our teachers employed in the church school system have absorbed too much of the paganism of the world, and have accepted too readily the views of the uninspired educators without regard for the revealed word of the Lord. What to do about it I do not know. It is a problem for the Presidency to consider. It is a very apparent fact that we have traveled far and wide in the past 20 years. What the future will bring I don’t know . But if we drift as far afield from the fundamental things in the next 20 years, what will be left of the foundation laid by the Prophet Joseph Smith? It is easy for one who observes to see how the apostasy came about in the primitive church of Jesus Christ. Are we not traveling the same road?” (The Life of Joseph Fielding Smith 212. Deseret Book Co) (Joseph Fielding Smith Journal, 28 December 1938)


Notice here he uses the time reference of 20 years as the time when we might be greatly degenerated.  Well, we are 3 score and ten years later now and we could rightly assume our handbooks have gotten more and more full of the doctrines of Men mingled with Scripture.

Isaiah Referred to this moment in the Period of Ephraimite rule in chapter 28 of his masterpiece; thoughts from a Prophet, Avraham Gileadi, mixed in red

 

 7 ¶ But athey also have berred through cwine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the dprophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

See chapter 56:10-12.  The prophets are said to be asleep and are not warning the people of what is coming.  In chapter 56, they represent the highest wrung of the spiritual ladder and are the ones who should be sounding the alarm.  Instead, they are not.  Wine is again the wine of delusion.  It is the wine of worldliness, the wine of Babylon.  It is the philosophies of worldly men.  Opposite of divine revelation.  This verse focuses on the religious leadership of the people.  In other places the political leadership is focussed on.  However, in Isaiah, they are generally on a par with one another.  See 19:14.  They err as seers.  They should be receiving revelation from the Lord and they are not.  Because of their reliance on the arm of flesh, they stumble in judgement.  Those who blindly follow them also err in their decisions. 


 

  8 For all tables are full of vomit and afilthiness, so that there is no place clean.


Just like at a drunken orgy where people eat and drink, it is a horrible scene of a mess.  This is partly because of the prophets drunkenness also.  “Tables” is a rhetorical link to “tablets” alluding to the word of God.  This alludes to the idea that what the people are getting to eat spiritually is vomit, partly digested material offered for consumption.  It is superficial.  What is being given is not meaningful, but only what other people have vomited up.

9 Whom shall he teach aknowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are bweaned from the cmilk, and drawn from the breasts.


This is where the Lord is at and this is where He wants his people to be, not relying half-digested materials.  This relates to Paul’s analogy of meat and milk in the gospel.  We must move beyond the milk of the gospel and move on to the meat.  The question here is “do you want to be babies forever?”  In the next verse, it notes that the learning is “line upon line, precept upon precept” which is the way babes are taught, repeating back line for line and word for word.  We need to get beyond that.  The Lord wants us to get direct revelation from him and from his prophets.

(Dan Here: I think this image of a baby to the breast can go a bit further here.  There is an image of a breastfeeding baby being wholly reliant on the Mother for the milk.  As shown above the Food that the mother (the church) is giving has become redigested, barely sustainable junk.  For a person to understand the revelation of a true prophet, or to recieve revelation directly from the source is to get RICH food, meat.  Full of life supporting nutrients.  That person must quit relying on handbooks, bi-annual conferances and sunday school blather for His/Her food.  He MUST sup at the table where the bread of life is served and be able to withstand that nourishment in order to survive this coming, the report that the servant will give.)



Now to the Point of the post.  This imagery that Christ gives us of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing can be illustrative to warn us as above.  Also, I think this could illustrate the reverse principle.  That is, we as sheep without discernment cannot detect the wolves in our flock.  Likewise We will not be able to detect the true shepherd as He guides us.  HE too will come from amongst the sheep.  He will be disfigured and  unattractive.  He will be persecuted by the wolves.  He will seem in many ways to the average sheeple to be an apostate or beaten philistine on the side of the road.  To the elect still relying on the breast for vomited milk, they will miss the carrion in the desert (JS-M) that is rich, full of good meat to scavagening eagles.  Only the Eagles who have mastered the ability to search high and low, high above the direction of earthly guidance (the arm of flesh), able to follow the winds of the Holy Ghost and detect truth no matter the package it is wrapped in, will recognize the shepherd amongst the sheep who will divide the black ones from the white as wheat from tares.  He will declare true doctrine.  It will be alarming to the sheep reliant on the fences.  IT will blast the laziness of the Gentiles.  He will hold true priesthood and work miracles amongst this people.  He is alive, can you find him amongst the flock?

 
 
 
 

The most marvelous revalation ever oracled

  • Nov. 8th, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Great Salt Lake City, April 9, 1852.
JD 1:46, Brigham Young, April 9, 1852
     Is it not marvellous, considering the weakness of man, to see the willingness of this whole people to die if
necessary for the truth? How do you suppose it makes me feel? Though I may sometimes chastise my
brethren, and speak to them in the language of reproof, there is not a father who feels more tenderly towards
his offspring, and loves them better than I love this people; and my Father in Heaven loves them; my heart
yearns over them with all the emotions of tenderness, so that I could weep like a child; but I am careful to
keep my tears to myself. If you do wrong, it grieves my heart, and it also grieves the heart of my heavenly
Father. I feel continually to urge my brethren to cease from all evil, and learn to do well.
The fulness of the heavens and the earth is the Lord's − the gold and the silver, the wheat, the fine flour, and
the cattle upon a thousand hills; and when we fully understand His works, we shall know that He is in all the
earth, and fulfills His will among the children of men, exalting and debasing them according to His pleasure;
for the systems, creeds, thrones, and kingdoms of the world are all under His control. "Shall there be evil in a
city, and the Lord hath not done it" − or that He doth not control? The Lord controls the whole; and in the end,
you will find He has regulated all things right, for all will be consummated to His glory.

Journal of Discourse 1:52

Wilford Woodruff Account:

Meeting adjourned [i.e. afternoon Conference] until evening when the house was filled again and was addressed by Bishop Hunter who told his experience, [when] he came into the Church, and was followed by President Young.

President Young arose and said: I will bear testimony to what Brother Hunter said — that the Elders go to work and preach in their wards and get the peopletogether at my house if nowhere else and preach, if it is but [a] few moments. I would pray and learn till I could preach. You say that you would go and preach [to] total strangers and teach them the Gospel. I know it is easier to do that than it is to get the Saints together and teach them to be saved and exalted. I know it is the desire of this people to get something new, but you should improve upon what you have. Here is the place to expose your ignorance and false views and let them out and be corrected. If you have false views, don't go into private houses and preach them where there is no one to correct you, nor while abroad [in] any other countries, but here is the place to let your errors out, not keep them back. Teach people to control themselves. Teach good doctrine and practice it. Here is the place to become a polished shaft. I like to remain here to see you, to be with you. I want to say to the Elders of Israel, were you ordained to preach the Gospel? If so, it is not wisdom or prudent to mingle with the excesses of the wicked or in any of their exercises, for then the Devil will have no advantage over you. I mingle with the Saints here in their recreation and exercises, but let me go abroad and subject myself to mingle with the wicked — I am on the Devil's ground and subject myself to him. If I mingle with any company here for recreation, I control that company

but if I step onto the Devil's ground, he controls it. Remember that at all times — that what you do — do it in the name of the Lord and let all your acts be to do the will of God. It is so that a man could not exercise his privileges because of the traditions of the world. All Christians would think it a great sin to have a fiddle. They would say it is wicked to hear music — they have made it a sin. I have not put a desire in my heart for music, but the Lord has. Music will calm the ferocious beast — who caused this? The Lord.

I want to say a few words about tithing. You know what was said at the last conference. The Saints have done more during the last 7 months than in 7 years before. I feel to bless you. Call upon this people to put their all upon the altar and they will do it. I feel like a father to this people — no mother can love her babe more than I do this people. When you do wrong, I feel oppressed in spirit and the Lord is grieved. I feel to urge it upon you all to cease to do evil and learn to do right.

All that we have is the Lord's — He does as He pleases — the thrones and kingdoms of the world are all governed by Him and in the end all will be found right. And they will find they have an agency unto themselves and all will do as they please — if they do right they will be Saved [and] get Glory and Exaltation and the wicked will go to Hell.

There is no place where God is not. Find empty space and there the Lord will not be.b

I will now preach you another sermon. There is one great master and head in all kingdoms and governments — so with [us.] Our Father in Heaven is a [being of] tabernacle.c — He created us in the likeness of His own image.d The Son has also a tabernacle like the Father e and the Holy Ghost is a minister to the people but [has] not a tabernacle. f

Who begat the Son of God? Infidels say that Jesus was a bastard, but let me tell you the truth concerning that matter. Our Father begat all thespirits that were, before any tabernacles were made.g When our Father came into the garden,h He came with His celestial bodyi and brought one of His wives with Him j and ate of the fruit of the garden until He could beget a [mortal] tabernaclek — and Adam is Michaell or Godm and all the God that we have anything to do with.n They eat of this fruit and formed the first tabernacle that was formed. And when the Virgin Mary was begotten with child, it was by the Father o and in no other way — in no other way, only as we were begotten. p I will tell you the truth as it is in God. The world don't know that Jesus Christ our elder brother was begotten by our Father in Heaven. Handle it as you please, it will either seal the damnation or salvation of man. He was begotten by the Father and not by the Holy Ghost.

When you go to preach and believe that Jesus Christ was begotten by the Holy Ghost, don't lay hands upon the heads of females for the reception of the Holy Ghost lest it beget her with child and you be accused.q I have told you nothing in this thing but what you have read in the Bible. I do not frame it.

The President then referred to the tithing and said: If one quarter of the tithing money that was due had been paid we should have had more means. The merchants have carried away $100,000 to the States. Did the people pay tithing on that? No! Now Bishops, see to this matter and then see what your feelings would be if you was in my place and see the hundreds that call upon me and my brethren. If the tithing was paid that is due we would have enough to pay all debts. I now say to the Bishops, go to my yard and take all my stock and lick all up clean, then do the same by my brethren until all the debt[s] are met. All voted to follow the President's example.

Prop 8 the Mormon paradox/paradigm

  • Nov. 4th, 2008 at 11:47 AM

In the 1800's the Mormons were persecuted and driven from place to place.  We cried foul when congress tried to limit our right to live our life and religion as we pleased.  Congress and other Christian groups claimed there distastes on supposedly moral Grounds.  Our Prophets, true prophets, decried this distaste and called for all to repent and allow us to worship how or what we may. 


     The Congress of the United States have lately passed a law
to punish polygamy in the Territories of the United States and in
other places over which they have exclusive jurisdiction.  In
doing this, they have undertaken to dictate the Almighty in his
revelations to his people, and those who handle edged tools,
unless they are skillful, are apt to cut their fingers; and those
who hand out insult to the Great I Am, in the end, are apt to get
more than they have spoken for.
(136.  Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9: President Brigham Young; the
Bowery, Salt Lake City; July 6, 1862.)
 
Now, in turn we are trying to tell others how THEY can marry, based on moral grounds.  is there not something wrong with this picture?  Our early prophets are justified in their demands and beliefs.  They in fact continued to marry in a polygamist fashion after the "manifesto".  Wilford Woodruff and us as a people should have never given in to the demands of a devilish Government.  But, likewise today, we have no right as a people to dictate to others how they marry.  Doing so is hypocrisy and will bring nothing but more condemnation on our heads. 

If this Prop were denied, it is not a stretch to say that Polygamy would soon be legal.  If we had our eye on the prize of being able to live all of Gods Laws at any moment, the removal of this restriction would only aid in that battle.  In other words, we are fighting on the wrong team, again.   Passing this Prop and fighting for it is no different than fighting against Brother Smoot in His hearings on Capital hill.

 

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ALMAS CHURCH (lasted 177 years)

 

Alma’s church was organized and established in 147BC (see Mosiah 18:17).  Alma’s church was broken up or destroyed in 30AD (see 3 Nephi 6:14).  That brings us to the fact that Alma’s church only lasted 177 years from it’s organization to it’s full stage of apostasy and destruction.  It’s important to looks at why this occurred.  The Book of Mormon record tells us that pride and boastings came about because of exceeding riches and prosperity (3 Nephi 6:10).  It was a society of commerce with many merchants, lawyers and officers in the land (3 Nephi 6:11).  People were also distinguished ranks according to their riches “and” chances for learning (college) while others were not as successful in this market because of a lack of learning or opportunities for schooling (3 Nephi 6:12).  The rest of this chapter tells us that it was the lawyers and judges that prospered in this society and they were the eventual cause of the Nephites federal governments destruction (3 Nephi 26, 27:6).  After the government collapsed they all broke into tribes and hated one another “but” they were united on one point.  They wanted there federal government back (3 Nephi 7:11).  So we see that in the same year that the church fell into full scale apostasy the government of the land also failed in the same year.

 

MIGHTY PROPHET WHO SEES VISIONS AND ANGELS ARISES (178TH - 179TH YEAR)

 

This great prophet who was the forerunner for Christ among the Nephites was visited by angels, heard the voice of the Lord, was an eye witness and had power bestowed upon him concerning the ministry of Christ.  He declared the doctrines of Christ to people that were hard hearted and and blind in their minds.  He preached boldly and with strong teachings.  The people were angry with him of course for not being politically correct (cross reference to Helaman 13:25-29) and because he had more convincing power then orthodox priests and leaders.  Angels visited him on a daily basis.  He was able to cast out devils and unclean spirits and even raised his own brother from the dead!  He performed many more miracles.  Still few were converted and denied following this great prophet.  Those who did believe testified boldly to non believers and performed miracles themselves.  These new members and followers of Christ through the prophet Nephi were baptized or possibly rebaptized.  This prophet made no mistakes in the reckoning of years and the people did look forward with anxiousness to the signs of Christ’s appearance unto them.  The people all disagreed about the signs and time of Christ’s coming despite the many signs that had been given.  Then on Jan 4th 34AD the earth begins to become a complete disaster zone.  This all happened before the ending of 34 AD (3 Nephi 10:18) and must have lasted many months not over a few nights as most think.  See 3 Nephi 7:15 – 3 Nephi 8:4 for sources on the above commentary.  For the natural disasters see 3 Nephi 8:5 – 3 Nephi

 

CHRIST’S CHURCH (lasted 176 years)

 

Christs church is organized all through 3 Nephi 11 up to chapter 27.  See specifically 3 Nephi 26:1 and chapter 27.  Lets see how long this church lasted and what caused it’s eventual apostasy.  4 Nephi starts out with the people doing pretty well but then it turns mid chapter.  In verse 23 we learn that the people had prospered and became exceedingly rich (here we go again, right).  Pride, costly apparel, fine pearls and commonality or the united order had been abandoned (4 Nephi 1:24-25).  They were big time church builders and must have had a chapel on every corner because there were “many” in the land.  The church “professed” to know Christ but denied the more parts of the gospel (lunch room gospel, take what you want and leave the rest out).  They gave sacred things to people that shouldn’t have because of unworthiness (temple rights perhaps?).  As brother Nibley has well stated this chapter points out that there were those who professed to belong to the church of Christ and those who really did.  Well the wanta-bees of course persecuted the original twelve that Christ chose and who were extremely old at this point.  The people hardened their hearts and were led by many false priests and false prophets “to build up many churches” (4 Nephi 1:23-34).  Hmm….sounds familiar.  We are again reminded that there full focus was to build churches in verse 41.  Riches were the name of the game (verse 43).  It was a commerce society that was apparently booming (verse 46).

 

LDS CHURCH WARNED OF DESTRUCTION

 

Then not many years after Christ’s church apostatized we know exactly what happens to them according to Mormon and Moroni’s records.  Mormon 8 is Moroni’s record to the latter day gentile church (LDS church) warning us against everything single thing mentioned above which caused the failure of our Lords previous churches on this continent.  Watch and learn is the message of Moroni.  Power of God is denied, churches are defiled because of pride.  The church leaders are very prideful and the members envy them (some day I’ll be a mission president or GA etc).  Destruction and pollutions are seen across the whole earth (8:28-31).  For money all your sins and worries will go away is the doctrine of these leaders (8:32).  Again we find church builders like McDonalds builds restaurants (8:33).  The scriptures are modified or transformed (8:33 see also 1981 scripture changes to LDS canon).  Then Moroni gives his famous speech to the latter day gentile church (8:35-38).  Note that the same exact words are used by Moroni to the latter day gentiles as were the words of Samuel the Lamanite to the Nephites.  “Behold the sword of vengeance hangeth over you” (8:41 cr Helamen 13:5).  Well we know what happened to the Nephites already and our D&C confirms this message (D&C 38:39).


Promises
Most of us remain unconcerned about prophecies of our own apostasy because we have been promised that the Church will never fall into apostasy, that our temples will remain through the millennium, that our great city will be a haven from the storm, and that "all we have to do is follow the Brethren." We have all heard these promises and have read these scriptures and prophecies numerous times. We enjoy hearing and telling them: they make us feel good and allow us a sense of security in a world of uncertainty. But forgotten in all of this is the ever so clear and very repetitive warning of the Lord: "I, the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise" (D&C 82: 10). Nor do we consider the irrevocable heavenly law that was established before the beginning of this world upon which "all blessings are predicated. And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated" (D&C 130:20-21). Also, "I command and men obey not; I revoke and they receive not the blessing" (D&C 58:30-32 see also: D&C 54:4; 56:3-4; 82:3-4; 97:25-27; 101:2, 39-41 105:2-6; 124:47-48; Deut 11:26-28; Josh 23:14-16; Jer 18:6-10)
I recommend that we read all of these references so that we might obtain a very clear picture of this repetitive warning from the Lord.
It may be important to note that the children of Israel in the Old Testament had all of the promises mentioned above, but they did fall into apostasy (Jer. 1: 16; 2:32; 3:25); and became polluted (Jer. 2:23); their temple was destroyed (Jer. 7:4, 11-15, 30; 26:6-12); their great city was destroyed (Jer. 4:29; 6:6; 23:39-40; Zeph. 2:14-15) and their priests and pastors led them astray by telling them that all was well and that they would have peace while those outside the covenant would be chastened (Jer. 2:8; 6:13-16; 23:1-2, 11, 16-17, 21-22, 32; compare 2 Ne. 28;14, 20-21, 24-26, 31-32). Concerning these prophets, priests, and pastors preaching that all is well, you "shall have peace," and "no evil shall come upon you," the Lord says, "And my people love to have it so" (Jer. 5:3 1; Isa. 30:10). Jeremiah claims that in the Latter Days we "shall consider it perfectly" (Jer. 23:20; compare 2 Ne. 25:7-8) (3) .
And what was the cause of this great destruction? Nephi's list again: they "worshipped the works of their own hands" (Jer. 1: 16), "and walked after things that do not profit" (Jer. 2:8, 11). They had deceitful business practices where they used subtleties and strategies to make themselves rich and looked past the fatherless and the needy. All of this in the Lord's mind surpassed even "the deeds of the wicked" (Jer 5:26-29); and, of course, they were prideful (Jer. 13:9, 17) and idolatrous (Jer. 1: 16; 2:8, 11). President Kimball appears to be drawing a parallel between idolatry in our day with the idolatry of the Old Testament and says:
Whatever thing a man sets his heart and his trust in most is his god; and if his god doesn't also happen to be the true and living God of Israel that man is laboring in idolatry.
It is my firm belief that when we read these scriptures and try to 'liken them unto [our]selves,' as Nephi suggested (1 Nephi 19:24), we will see many parallels between the ancient worship of graven images and behavioral patterns in our very own experience.
…But I am afraid that many of us have been surfeited with flocks and herds and acres and barns and wealth and have begun to worship them as false gods, and they have power over us. Do we have more of these things than our faith can stand?
…If we insist on spending all our time and resources building up for ourselves a worldly kingdom, that is exactly what we will inherit.
In spite of our delight in defining ourselves as modern and our tendency to think we possess a sophistication that no people in the past ever had--in spite of these things, we are, on the whole, an idolatrous people -- a condition most -- repugnant to the Lord.
...But when I review the performance of this people in comparison with what is expected, I am appalled and frightened...we feel that truly we are living in conditions similar to those in the days of Noah before the Flood." (The False Gods We Worship, Ensign Magazine, June 1976, p 3. Emphasis added).
President Kimball's address was given in 1976. I wonder if we are better now, or worse?
We may find it interesting that our Bible Dictionary accuses the Jews at the time of Lehi and Jeremiah "of fanatical confidence in the Lord's protection." Even though the Jews could see that their world was deteriorating around them they felt that since they were God's chosen people that he would protect and preserve them. This "self-deception" was based on "superficial reforms" and the assurances of the prophets, priests, and pastors of the people. Jeremiah tried to fight this trend, almost single-handedly, by declaring that "a complete regeneration" in lifestyle was required. He develops the idea of individual fellowship with the Lord (see LDS Scriptures, Bible Dictionary: "Jeremiah", p.711).
Hugh Nibley has stated:
Is the presence of the Temple in our midst a guarantee of safety? How often have the Jews made that mistake! for the greater the blessing promised, the greater the penalty and the risk.
…What is the result of failing to live up to every covenant made in the temple? It is to be in Satan's power; there is no alternative, for you "can not serve two masters." With the first slip the sinner begins to put distance between himself and God...one who fails to live up to his covenants tries to hide first by looking for loopholes in the language of the Endowment.
...Many have noted the strong tendency of Latter-day Saints to avoid making waves. They seem strangely touchy on controversial issues. This begets an extreme lack of candor among the saints, which in turn is supported by a new doctrine according to which we have a Prophet at our head who relieves us of all responsibility for seeking knowledge beyond a certain point, making decisions or taking action on our own. From this it follows that one must never question a manual or Lesson Book, even though it may swarm with errors and evasions. But obedience, the first step in enlightenment, is not the last. ("Endowment History," June 1986, unpublished manuscript, p. 74-75. )
The Destroyer of the Gentiles
In Jeremiah 4:7 the prophet uses wording to describe the destruction of the Jews that is similar to words used to prophesy the destruction of the last days. The Lord says the destruction will come from the north and "the Lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way."
This, of course, reminds us of 3 Nephi 20:16 and 21:12 where in our day the remnant of Jacob will go among the Gentiles as a Lion among the Flock and lead them down (see also Morm. 5:22-24; Mic. 5:8; D&C 87:5). But again we always assume that the "them" that will be trodden are "they, the wicked" as opposed to "we, the righteous."
Elder H. Verlan Andersen of the Seventy has said, "If Church members from Gentile nations will bear in mind that the term "Gentile" when used in the Book of Mormon includes them, the prophecies therein will have much greater meaning and be more disturbing." (The Great and Abominable Church of the Devil, p. 170). (See also D&C 109:60.) (4).
From the Gentiles to the House of Israel
To help show that the Gentiles referred to in the above scriptures includes the Lord's covenant people we turn to 3 Nephi 16: 10-l5:
10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and deceits, and mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fullness of my gospel, behold saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.
11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.
12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.
13 But if the Gentiles will repent and return unto me, saith the Father, behold they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.
14 And I will not suffer my people, who are of the house of Israel, to go through among them, and tread them down, saith the Father.
15 But if they will not turn unto me, and hearken unto my voice, I will suffer them, yea, I will suffer my people, O house of Israel, that they shall go through among them, and shall tread them down, and they shall be as salt that hath lost its savor which is henceforth good for nothing but to be cast out, and to be trodden underfoot of my people, O house of Israel. (3 Nephi 16:10-15)
In verse 10 we read, "At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel." We immediately assume that it is referring exclusively to "those sinners" who reject the message of our missionaries, as if it were not possible to sin against His gospel from the inside.
Verse 10 also gives a long list of evil deeds being done that appear to be crimes far too heinous to be inside jobs, but perhaps we should remember that just because we don't see something does not mean it does not exist (see D&C 123:10-15; Hel. 6:20-24, 37-38; Ether 8:18- 26; Alma 37:21-26).
Continuing in verse 10 the Gentiles are accused of rejecting the fulness of God's gospel which will cause the Father to "bring the fulness of my gospel from among them." Rejecting the "fulness " of the gospel of the Father may of necessity be an inside job. This appears to pattern the breakup of Christ's Church in 4 Nephi 1:27 where "they did deny the more parts of his gospel" (see Nibley, page 4 above) and matches the inside corruption of Christianity and the Bible, as depicted in 1 Nephi 13, wherein "they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants" ( 1 Ne. 13:26, 24-34).
It is of significance that at the end of 3 Nephi 16:10 the fulness of the gospel is taken from these Gentiles, and verses 11-12 prophesy that this gospel will go to the house of Israel--a curiously similar scenario to Alma's Church in 3 Nephi 6:14 where the Church breaks up "in all the land" of the Nephites at the same time as the Lamanites prove faithful This happens in both cases just a few years before the coming of the Lord in glory. President Ezra Taft Benson has pointed out:
The record of the Nephite history just prior to the Savior's visit reveals many parallels to our own day as we anticipate the Savior's second coming. (A Witness and a Warning, Deseret Book, p.37.)
Verses 13-14 tell us if we "repent and return" that we can join them . That this is referring to us will be made even more clear below, but it should be noted that it is difficult to "return" to some place you have never been. If we do indeed repent then we will be spared (see also 3 Ne. 20:14-16; 21:11-29).
In verse 15 we learn again that if we do not repent (repentance appears to be the only choice--to continue as we are does not seem to be an acceptable option) we shall be tread down (back to our Lion among the flock scenario) and we will "be as salt that hath lost it's savor, which is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out, and to be trodden under the foot of my people , O house of Israel."
"Salt," as it is used in verse 15, confirms the idea that a covenant people is being referred to here, because D&C 101:39-40 tells us: "When men are called unto mine everlasting covenant, they are accounted as the salt of the earth and the savor of men;" and then verse 40 repeats the punishment for breaking the covenant, "cast out d trodden under the feet of men." Elder H. Verlan Andersen, of the Quorum of the Seventy, agrees:
We are forced to conclude that He is speaking directly to His 'covenant people' here…(The Great and Abominable Church of the Devil, p. 126, 171.)
After reviewing the scriptures referred to immediately above on the relationship between the gentiles of the covenant and the House of Israel (i.e., 3 Ne. 16:10-15; 3 Ne. 20; 3 Ne 21), Brother Hugh Nibley has said:
Throughout these explicit prophecies it is the Gentiles who join: 'the Lamanites and those who have become Lamanites', not the other way around If we are to be saved we must move in their direction. (Speech given at the J. Reuben Clark Law School, B.Y.U., Provo, Utah; October 9, 1992. Published in Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints, Vol. 13 of Hugh Nibley Collected Works, pp. 100-101.)
Conclusion
Elder Boyd K. Packer in an address to Regional Representatives has said:
In recent years I have felt, and I think I am not alone, that we are losing the ability to correct the course of the church. You cannot appreciate how deeply I feel about the importance of this present opportunity unless you know the regard, the reverence, I have for the Book of Mormon and how seriously I have taken the warnings of the prophets, particularly Alma and Helaman.
Both Alma and Helaman told the church in their day. They warned about fast growth, the desire to be accepted by the world, to be popular, and particularly they warned about prosperity. Each time those conditions existed in combination, the church has drifted off course. All of those conditions are present in the church today.
Helaman repeatedly warned, I think four times he used these words, that the fatal drift of the church could occur in the space of not many years. In one instance it took only six years. (Helaman 6:32; 7:6; 11:26) (See also 3 Nephi 7:8.) (Regional Representative Seminar, March 30, 1990)
As gentiles of the covenant our choices are simple--either repent or perish. The punishments indivisibly attached to the endowment assure us of that. But the question remains, "repent of what?" It is believable to me that Nephi's list may be an excellent place to begin. We must also begin to build "a sure foundation," "upon the rock of our redeemer, who is Christ, the Son of God" (Hel. 5: 12) and not upon the "arm of flesh" because "Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man." (2 Ne. 28:25-32; 4:34). We must strive to know God, with all our hearts, might, mind, and strength.
Mormon told his son Moroni that "the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proven their destruction except they should repent" (Moro 8:27) and our own Doctrine and Covenants has told us to "...beware of pride, lest ye become as the Nephites of old" (D&C 38:39). A warning that President Benson has likewise echoed to us (Ensign , May, 1989, p. 4). And Moroni tells us to "give thanks unto God that he hath made manifest unto you our imperfections, that ye may learn to be more wise than we have been" (Mormon 9:3 I). May we heed his warning more diligently than the Nephites heeded the warning of the Jaredites.
Perhaps we should be concerned that of all the pages of scripture we have available to us, only a few chapters of the books of Moses contain the incomplete story of the people of Enoch. All else is the repetitive cycle of restoration, apostasy and destruction with the hero being the lone remnant, typified by Lehi and his family. The large collective success story is conspicuously absent from our canon of scripture. May we be the ones who repent and break the trend.
Endnotes
1. Mosiah Hancock has expressed Brigham Young's views by stating:
He (B. Y.) conversed freely on the situation of the saints in the mountains, and said that he dreaded the time when the saints would become popular with the world; for he had seen in sorrow, in a dream or in dreams, this people clothed in the fashions of Babylon and drinking in the spirit of Babylon until one could hardly tell a saint from a black-leg. (Life Story of Mosiah Hancock, p. 73.)
Also,
And when the spirit of persecution, the spirit of hatred, of wrath, and malice ceases in the world against this people, it will be the time that this people have apostatized and joined hands with the wicked, and never until then; which I pray may never come. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 4:327)
I look at this, and I am satisfied that it will not do for the Lord to make this people popular. . ..What is the reason of this? Christ and Baal can not become friends. When I see this people grow and spread and prosper, I feel that there is more danger than when they are in poverty. Being driven from city to city or into the mountains is nothing compared to the danger of our becoming rich and being hailed by outsiders as a first-class community. (Brigham Young, JD, 12:270-271, August 16th, 1868)
There is nothing that would weaken my hope and discourage me as to see this people in full fellowship with the world and receive no more persecution from them because they are one of them. In such an event, we might bid farewell to the holy priesthood with all its blessings, privileges, and aids to exaltation, principalities, and powers in the eternities of God...When we see the time that we can willingly strike hands and have full fellowship with those who despise the kingdom of God, know ye then that the priesthood of the Son of God is out of your possession. (Brigham Young, JD, 10:32)
Whether Brother Brigham would apply the above to our situation as contained in this paper is something we can only speculate on, but I see these quotes as being worth considering, especially in light of Mormon 8:38 (James 4:4).
2. Highly recommended on this subject is Hugh Nibley, Approaching Zion, Deseret Book/F.A.R.M.S., vol. 9 H. N.'s Collected Works.
3. President Joseph Smith read the 14th chapter of Ezekiel--said the Lord had declared by the Prophet, that the people should each one stand for himself, and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish church--that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls--applied it to the present state of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints-said if the people departed from the Lord, they must fall--that they were depending on the Prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves, envious towards the innocent, while they afflict the virtuous with their shafts of envy. (Joseph Fielding Smith, The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 237-238.)
What a pity it would be if we were led by one man to utter destruction! Are you afraid of this? I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken that influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in the right way. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 9:150. Also see Ezra Taft Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This, p.294.)
Six of the original twelve apostles selected by Joseph Smith were excommunicated. The Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon left the Church. Three of Joseph Smith's counselors fell--one even helped plot his death.
A natural question that might arise would be that if the Lord knew in advance that these men would fall, as he undoubtedly did, why did he have his prophet call them to such high office? The answer is, to fill the Lord's purposes. For even the Master followed the will of the Father by selecting Judas. President George Q. Cannon suggested an explanation, too, when he stated, 'Perhaps it is his own design that faults and weaknesses should appear in high places in order that his saints may learn to trust in him and not in any man or men'. And this would parallel Nephi's warning, put not your 'trust in the arm of flesh'. (2 Nephi 4:34). (Ezra Taft Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This, Bookcraft, p. 290.)
We can tell when the speakers are moved upon by the Holy Ghost only when we, ourselves, are moved upon by the Hold Ghost. In a way, this completely shifts the responsibility from them to us to determine when they so speak....The church will know by the testimony of the Holy Ghost in the body of the members whether the brethren in voicing their views are moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and in due time that knowledge will be made manifest. (President J. Reuben Clark, Church News, July 31, 1954. Also see Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This, p. 295. Emphasis added.)
The time will come when no man or woman will be able to endure on borrowed light. (Heber C. Kimball as quoted in Orson F. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, 1888 edition, p. 461.)
4. For a thorough discussion of the term "Gentiles" as used in the scriptures see Avraham Gileadi, chapter on "Gentiles of the House of Israel", The Last Days, Deseret Book/Covenant Books.
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a Comparison (Nibley)

  • Nov. 4th, 2008 at 11:13 AM

A Formula For Failure
In I Nephi 22:23 the prophet Nephi gives a list of characteristics that, if found within any church, will cause that church to be consumed as stubble:
For the time speedily shall come that all churches which are built up to get gain, and all those who are built up to get power over the flesh, and those who are built up to become popular in the eyes of the world and those who seek the lusts of the flesh and the things of the world, and do all manner of iniquity; yea, in fine, all those who belong to the kingdom of the devil are they who need fear, and tremble, and quake; they are those who must be brought low in the dust: they are those who must be consumed as stubble; and this is according to the words of the prophet. (1 Nephi 22:23)
This prophecy is all encompassing for it includes "all churches," and is particularly interesting to us because it is found in a chapter in which the context is almost exclusively concerned with the Last Days. Nephi says that "all churches which are built up" (1) "to get gain," (2) "to get power," (3) "to become popular,"(4) "and those who seek the lusts of the flesh and the things of the world," and (5)"do all manner of iniquity...must be consumed as stubble."
The Breakup of the Church Established by Alma
We are told that when a covenant people fail to live up to every covenant they make in the temple of the Lord they will be in Satan's power. We find that scenario clearly played out in the breakup of the church that Alma established (Mos. 18:17). In 3 Nephi 6:14, just a few years before the coming of the Lord in great glory to the Nephites, we see that the true Church of God established by the prophet Alma "was broken up in all the land save it were among a few of the Lamanites who were converted unto the true faith." Verse 15 tells us that "the cause of this iniquity...was that Satan had great power" over them, just as is promised to a covenant-breaking people. This power that Satan had gained over them manifested itself in another list unmistakingy similar to Nephi's list in I Nephi 22:23, as seen in the subject verse:
15 Now the cause of this iniquity of the people was this--Satan had great power, unto the stirring up of the people to do all manner of iniquity, and to the puffing them up with pride, tempting them to seek for power, and authority, and riches, and the vain things of the world. (3 Nephi 6:15)
The 3 Nephi covenant people were (1) doing "all manner of iniquity," (2) puffed "up with pride," (3) seeking "for power and authority," (4) "and riches, and..." (5) "...the vain things of the world" (See also 3 Ne 6:10-12).
When we compare the two Nephi's lists we find, not unexpectedly, great consistency:
Nephi's List
1 Nephi 22:23
Alma's Church
3 Nephi 6:15
1. Gain
1. Riches
2. Power
2. Power and Authority
3. Popularity
3. Pride
4. Lusts of the flesh, things of the world
4. Vain things of the world
5. All manner of iniquity
5. All manner of iniquity
 
It is interesting that the "lusts of the flesh" seems to be so closely associated with "the things of the world." We usually identify "lusts of the flesh" exclusively with sexual sins, but the "flesh" can also "lust" for an abundance of fine foods and drinks, as well as for automobiles, houses, recreation and other "things of the world." This is especially true when used in a gluttonous manner. This chapter also makes it clear that this great iniquity came upon them in a very short period of time.
The Breakup of the Church of Christ Established
In 4 Nephi we find the same list present in the description of the breakup of the Church that Christ established while he was among the Nephites and Lamanites:
23 And now I, Mormon, would that ye should know that the people had multiplied insomuch that they were spread upon all the face of the land and that they had become exceedingly rich, because of their prosperity in Christ.
24 And now, in this two hundred and first year there began to be among them those who were lifted up in pride, such as the wearing of costly apparel and all manner of fine pearls, and of the fine things of the world.
25 And from that time forth they did have their goods and their substance no more common among them.
26 And they begun to be divided into classes; and they began to build up churches to get gain, and began to deny the true church of Christ.
27 And if came to pass that when two hundred and ten years had passed away there were many churches in the land; yea, there were many churches which professed to know the Christ, and yet they did deny the more parts of his gospel insomuch that they did receive all manner of wickedness, and did administer that which was sacred unto him to whom it had been forbidden because of unworthiness.
28 And this church did multiply exceedingly because of iniquity, and because of the power of Satan who did get hold upon their hearts. (4 Nephi 1:23-28)
Mormon, in verse 23, names riches and prosperity as being a problem. Also pride and "the fine things of the world" are mentioned in this light in verse 24. They broke the Law of Consecration in verse 25. "And they began to be divided into classes," which always plays on a pride/popularity/power/ authority theme "...and they began to build up churches to get gain" (verse 26; see also verse 30). In verse 27 they ignore or deny many parts of the original gospel of Christ which He had delivered to them and instead embraced "all manner of wickedness." In verse 28 we are told that this church became very popular and sustained tremendous growth. In an Honors Book of Mormon class taught at BYU and telecast on KBYU on Sundays in the Utah area, the instructor, Hugh Nibley, has commented on 4 Nephi 1:23-28:
…verse 27, and here we see that the new churches retained their traditions, of course. They were not seeking to be original. They claimed to be the old true church…We are in 4 Nephi 1:27: 'There were many churches which professed to know the Christ, and yet they did deny the more parts of his gospel.' They took some parts. They kept parts of the gospel, but they got rid of others they didn't like. Well, we do that the same way. 'They did deny the more parts of his gospel, insomuch that they did receive all manner of wickedness.' And they went further than that. They had the gospel. They denied most of it, though, but they still had the forms and the ordinances and they administered them. They 'professed to know the Christ.' They accommodated their doctrines to the market. They supplied temple recommends on demand
It was very popular. The church grew phenomenally as a result of this. Remember, this is the church we're talking about. This is not apostates. Give them what they want and you'll win. This is the Nehor story already. Remember, the Nehors grew like crazy. We do that today, of course. …Verse 28 also teaches another thing--that the phenomenal growth of the church is no proof that it's true at all, or that it's on the true path. It grew faster than anything because it was very popular. So don't use popularity as a gauge either. (Teachings of the Book of Mormon, Semester. 4, F.A.R.M.S., p. 186.)
We see in verse 28 that all of this iniquity prospered "because of the power of Satan who did get hold upon their hearts." As stated above, Satan gets power over people when they fail to live up to every covenant made in the temple of the Lord.
It is curious that the Church in Alma's day and Christ's Church in 3 Nephi each lasted approximately the same number of years before breaking up. Alma's Church was started about 147 B.C. (see Mos. 18) and broke up in the 30th year A.D. (3 Ne. 6:14), showing that it lasted about 177 years. Christ's Church began 34 A.D. (3 Ne. 12) and in the "two hundred and first year there began to be among them those who where lifted up in pride" (4 Ne. 1:24) and when "two hundred and ten years had passed away there were many churches in the land" (4 Ne. 1:27). Thus, this church lasted between 167 to 176 years.
Moroni's Prophecy of Our Day
In Mormon 8:34-35 Moroni tells us that Christ has shown him "great and marvelous things" pertaining to the day in which we now live. "But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me and I know your doing" (verse 35). president Ezra Taft Benson assures us that these verses are referring to us in our own day. (A Witness and a Warning, p.20). Then Moroni goes on to describe the conditions of our day by saying that our "churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted" because of our pride (verse 36).
36 And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes, and malice, and persecutions, and ail manner of iniquities; and your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.
37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.
38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies--because of the praise of the world?
39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not?
40 Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and cause that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn before the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to cry unto the Lord from the ground for vengeance upon your heads?
41 Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon cometh that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not suffer their cries any longer. (Mormon 8:36-41)
Perhaps it is time we begin to deal with these verses in a realistic manner. It has been my experience that if we deal with this at all, we claim it to either exclude the LDS Church or that it refers to a time prior to the restoration by Joseph Smith. Yet Moroni helps to clarify these verses by including us with the polluted churches when asking in verse 38 "why have ye polluted the holy church of God?" Elder L. Tom Perry has stated quite clearly in his conference talk given in October of 1992 that these verses are referring to us in the LDS Church:
He [Moroni] writes first to the members of the Church and then to those who have not embraced the gospel of Jesus Christ. Moroni's last words to the members of the Church are written as a voice of warning. He writes as one who sees the history of his people repeating itself in the future. (Ensign, November 1992, p. 16)
Elder Perry then quotes from Mormon 8:34-38 and continues with his thought:
I guess one of the greatest mysteries of mortality is why mankind fails to learn from history. Why do those who profess to be true followers of Christ so often become victims of the enticements of the world?
...we see so many members seeking worldly pursuits contrary to the words of the Lord's prophets through the ages. Many of us are more concerned about our fine apparel, the size of our homes, and our cars and their gadgets than we are about the needs of the poor and the needy. (Ensign, Nov. 1992, p. 16)
H. Verlan Andersen, of the Quorum of the Seventy, also sees these verses as referring to us in the LDS church:
Since there is only one 'holy church of God' on earth, and since it is being polluted, the blame therefore appears to rest upon teachers and hypocrites within that church. (Great and Abominable Church of the Devil, p. 171)
Even more to the point are Hugh Nibley's remarks on these verses in Mormon 8:
...Here is our own fashionable, well-dressed, status-conscious, and highly competitive society. The 'iniquities with which it is charged are interesting, for instead of crime, immorality, and atheism we are told of the vices of vanity, of the intolerant and uncharitable state of mind: pride, envy, strife, malice and persecution. These are crimes of meanness.
…They are dedicated people…These people do not persecute the poor (they are too single-minded for that), but simply ignore their existence.
…It is important to note that these people are church builders (the unbelievers are addressed in the next chapter), and that they include the members of the true church. --
…After the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, moreover, there is only one 'holy Church of God' (1 Nephi 14: 10). expression here, moreover, cannot refer to the primitive church, of which these latter-day Christians know nothing--they are not in a position to pollute it, and pollution is necessarily an inside job. And why should the true Church be any more immune to the blandishments of money and fine clothes and beautiful churches today than it was in the days of the Nephites.
…Why should they now think that all these warnings are not meant for them, but only for the wicked outsiders? It is exactly the attitude which Nephi and Samuel the Lamanite attacked with such vigor. The Book of Mormon was given to us because if was meant for us. (Since Cumorah, vol. 7 of H. N. Collected Works, pp. 378-379. Emphasis added).
As we read these verses in Mormon 8 we see Nephi's list clearly manifested. We find ourselves accused by Moroni of an excessive love of riches throughout verses 36-40, but "money" is specifically mentioned in verse 37 and getting "gain" in verse 40. We see power and authority manifested again by class distinctions, persecutions, envyings, strifes, malice and the ignoring of the poor and the needy, along with "pride" which is the dominant topic of verse 36. Also, popularity is manifested in verse 38 by our seeking the "praise of the world." The vain things of the world are listed in detail in verses 36 and 37 as well as verse 39 which describes them as "that which hath no life." Verse 36 completes our list with the phrase describing us as being involved with "all manner of iniquities ."
 
Nephi's List
1 Ne. 22:23
Alma's Church
3 Ne. 6:14-15
Christ's Church
4 Ne. 1:23-30
LDS Church
Morm. 8:34-41
1. Gain
1. Riches
1. Riches, Gain
1. Money, Gain
2. Power
2. Power, Authority
2. Power, Authority
2. Envy, Strife, Malice, Persecutions
3. Popularity
3. Pride
3. Pride, Popularity
3. Pride, Praise of World
4. Lusts of flesh, Things of the World
4. Vain things of the World
4. Fine things of the World
4. Substance, Fine apparel, Adorned churches
5. All manner of iniquity
5. All manner of iniquity
5. All manner of wickedness
5. All manner of iniquities
 
Perhaps the consequences of the above comparison should concern us a great deal. It has the tendency to change the emphasis of who among us requires repentance in order to please God. We have long looked at the outward sins commonly exemplified by immorality, breaking the Word of Wisdom and general activity in the Church as the ultimate division between "we the righteous" and "they the sinners." Nephi and Moroni, however, give us a whole new order of things, a brand new list, which is really an old list, emphasizing the inward sins; sins that are quite acceptable to the world as a whole but which bring upon us the Lord's "sword of vengeance" (Morm 8:40-41).
Interestingly Mormon 8 chooses to use the more timely word of "money" instead of "riches" and the "power and authority" category in Mormon 8 is detailed and itemized rather than the general terms used in the other columns. It also becomes more specific in area 3, where Moroni suggests in verse 38 that we are not just looking to be accepted in the world and be among the popular churches of the day, but we are willing to give up virtually everything for "that which will canker" (see also D&C 56: 16) and "the praise of the world." After a heritage of persecution we seem to be willing to compromise (1) . Our excessive clothing and church buildings seem to be singled out as specifics of "the vain things of the world", as well as the more general category of "substance" (verse 37).
The surprising thing to us in all of this is the emphasis on economics. But it should not be too big of a surprise because it is everywhere in our scriptures. The establishment of Zion, one of the first commandments in this dispensation (see D&C 6:6-7; 11:6-7), is very much an economic order based on equality as opposed to inequality (see D&C 49:20; 70:14; 78:5-7; 104:14-18; 105:2-6; Mos. 4:15-27). If we were to be asked "what was the great sin of Sodom?" we would most likely answer "sexual sin." But Ezekiel 16:49-50 says:
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy
50 And they were haughty and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekiel 16:49-50)
It sounds like Mormon 8 (See James 1:27)(2).
The Priesthood and the List
34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?
35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson--
36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven can not be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man. (D&C 121:34-37)
One valuable concept that the Lord has given us is that, of those of us who "hold" the priesthood almost none really possess it. The priesthood "may be conferred upon us" but when we "gratify our pride" or exercise power or authority over others "in any degree of unrighteousness", (or iniquity), "Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man" (verse 37). Therefore "many are called, but few are chosen" (verse 34-35). In order to be chosen we cannot have our hearts set upon the vain "things of this world" or aspire to the praise of the world (verse 35) (combining the wording from Nephi's list with that of D&C 12 1 : 34-37 Nephi's terrible list has found it's way into the Doctrine and Covenants showing the consistency of the scriptures on this particular subject, lending emphasis to the principle being taught.
Hugh Nibley, in an article on the priesthood, has said:
Is not the priesthood everything? Not on this earth. On this earth it is nothing, and as soon as we try to use it for any kind of status, power, rule or authority it automatically cancels out.
Though some may find it hard to believe, I find no cause for boasting in my priesthood--nothing is easier than conferring it upon one, but that is only the beginning; for it to be a real power requires a degree of concentration, dedication, and self-discipline which few ever attain to, and for the rest priesthood is not a blessing but a terrible risk.
Very few men on earth, including those in the Church are really qualified. In terms of prestige, status, power, and authority and riches, the priesthood has absolutely nothing to offer The world laughs at it, the latter-&y saints abuse or ignore it, those who take it seriously do so in "fear and trembling." ("Priesthood", Sunstone Magazine, December 1990.)
Zoramites
We are frequently advised to repent. But repent of what? Too often we think that the "bad guys" are out "there" someplace and "they" need to repent of the "big things" while "we the righteous" need to repent of the "little things". This theme is played out almost every Sunday in almost every ward. It's in our talks, our lessons and in our comments. We use our scriptures to prove to ourselves that "we" are right and "they" are wrong. We read into redundancy the verses that tell us what we already know; and ignore the passages that may prove controversial even if they may be trying to teach us something essential to our salvation. And Heaven forbid we should bring up something that told us of our sins, let alone accused us of polluting "the holy church of God".
This may remind us of the Book of Mormon Zoramites found in Alma 31. The Zoramites would allow one person at a time to take center stage in their church, "stretch forth his hands toward heaven" (verse 13-14) and thank God that He had separated them from their foolish brethren who were obviously in error, they considered themselves the elect of God, and that they would be saved while everyone else would be consigned to a lesser kingdom (verses 16- 18). After the Zoramites had said these things they would return to their homes "never speaking of their God again" (verse 23) until they gathered together the next week (verse 12). This broke Alma's heart because he saw they were caught up in riches, "all manner of fine goods" (verse 24), "boasting" and "pride" (verse 25), all manner of "gross wickedness" (verse 26), "the vain things of the world" (verse 27), "costly apparel, and their ringlets and their bracelets, and their ornaments of gold, and all their precious things...yet they cried...we thank thee, O God, for we are a chosen people unto thee, while all others shall perish" (verse 28). This perversion of the ways of the Lord (verse 11) by this highly religious people not only "astonished" (verse 19) and "grieved" (verse 24) Alma, but he considered them to be an extremely "perverse" and grossly wicked people (verses 24, 26). See also Isaiah 1:1l-31.
Polluted
At some time in our repentance process we must come to terms with Moroni calling us, and our "teachers," "pollutions" and "hypocrites" (Morm. 8:38). The word "polluted" as used in Mormon 8 appears to be synonymous with the dreaded "A" word (apostasy) which we only use when referring to "them." The "A" word fits quite nicely for us when describing early Judaism or Christianity; we wouldn't even have a difficult time attaching it to Alma's Church in 3 Nephi 6 or the break-up of Christ's Church in 4 Nephi. However, 1 Nephi 22:23 sets up the criteria for a polluted church and 3 Nephi 6 and 4 Nephi give us examples of a polluted church; all three situations parallel Moroni's description of the polluted "holy church of God" in our day. The word "polluted" is only used three times in the Book of Mormon outside Mormon 8. One is quoting Isaiah (1 Ne. 20:11); another is referring to the awful polluted state of the Lamanites (who were in apostasy at the time) (Mos. 25: 11); and the other is Ammon describing the sinful and polluted state that he, his brothers and Alma the Younger were in before their great change (by anyone's definition--apostasy) (Alma 26: 17). There does appear to be at least some justification for considering the possibility that Moroni in Mormon 8 is accusing us of being in some form of apostasy.
We are grateful to President Benson, Elder Perry, Elder Anderson, and Brother Nibley for pointing out to us Moroni's accusation. But if they are correct, and Moroni is referring to us and we have "polluted the holy church of God" and the Lord's "sword of vengeance" hangs over us (Morm. 8:38, 41; compare D&C 112:24-26; 97:25-26) why isn't there more conversation on this subject? Why doesn't every lesson manual have at least one chapter that deals with these verses? Why don't we discuss it in our quorums and our classes? I would guess that fewer than 10 percent of the Church are familiar with these verses and still fewer realize that Moroni is referring here to the LDS Church. How can we correct errors we are not aware of? (continued----> )